Too much penalties, lost Map,lost XP, lost node buffs

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luiz1220#4047 wrote:

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Sebastipole#0183 wrote:

Did the thought cross your mind that, if you can't do the map in 1 portal, you're not ready to do that content yet?

I know it's difficult, actually thinking and using your brain to work out this design philosophy.

But if you can't do it in 1 portal, you're not ready to do it, and you need to get better at the game mechanically or adjust your build to cope with the lack of skill.

Its funny how this guy says the same thing all over the forum haha

Some ppl really need some attention.

It's true, if you can't do it on 1 life, you can't do it, not complicated to understand, kids are too entitled these days and want a free pass at everything, it's a cancer that's ruining everything.

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CroDanZ#1818 wrote:

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Tzarperssian#4164 wrote:

Just moron

Seemes like I hurted someone's ego. ;)

Well mate, it seems u don't get it, my ego is not the game problem. If you have something in value to share, pls, do otherwise go to bed

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Tzarperssian#4164 wrote:

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Sebastipole#0183 wrote:

Did the thought cross your mind that, if you can't do the map in 1 portal, you're not ready to do that content yet?

I know it's difficult, actually thinking and using your brain to work out this design philosophy.

But if you can't do it in 1 portal, you're not ready to do it, and you need to get better at the game mechanically or adjust your build to cope with the lack of skill.

GGG don't allow u to have several tries? Pls , mate think

You have until pinnacle bosses to work it out, you can't work it out from the start of end game, to the current end?

That's a literal skill issue

People are doing it on 1 life in HC, how are you not doing it with as many attempts as you like in SC?

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Stop trying to gaslight people and put words in their mouth. Nobody was ever talking about that here, people just want to enjoy a game without needlessly stressful 24/7 gameplay of fear of losing your map and exp. It's not that hard to understand.

If you complain about penalties you obviously die to often and simply don't play the content that suits your character.

I run content where I don't die for sure with my current gear and never had problems with any penalties the TE listed here.

As said it's just your ego guys that you don't take a step back and simply run the content where you don't bother about penalties.

And you know that I'm right here, even if it eats you up from inside.

You guys are used to trivial & liner progression like in D4 where there's no need to actualy grind & min/max the gear for weeks or even months.

Whats your plan?....Making the game so trivial that you beat all content after 2 weeks and complain afterwords that "theres nothing to do in this game".

With penalties you always have something to do and leveling a char to 100 a satisfaction if achieved. ;)

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CroDanZ#1818 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Stop trying to gaslight people and put words in their mouth. Nobody was ever talking about that here, people just want to enjoy a game without needlessly stressful 24/7 gameplay of fear of losing your map and exp. It's not that hard to understand.

If you complain about penalties you obviously die to often and simply don't play the content that suits your character.

I run content where I don't die for sure with my current gear and never had problems with any penalties the TE listed here.

As said it's just your ego guys that you don't take a step back and simply run the content where you don't bother about penalties bcs they simply don't happen.

And you know that I'm right here, even if it eats you up from inside.

You guys are used to trivial & liner progression like in D4 where the onlyway is forward instead of taing a step back and do the difficulty according to your character progression.

Wrong again. The game is just balanced to randomly oneshot people and its full of those kinds of spikes of damage and random on-death effects+archnemesis are everywhere in maps. That's never going to be balanced properly, so people are simply asking for the game to not be so overly punishing for no reason.

Your "skill issue" and "git gud" arguments mean nothing. They are not feedback, just elitism.

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CroDanZ#1818 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Stop trying to gaslight people and put words in their mouth. Nobody was ever talking about that here, people just want to enjoy a game without needlessly stressful 24/7 gameplay of fear of losing your map and exp. It's not that hard to understand.

If you complain about penalties you obviously die to often and simply don't play the content that suits your character.

I run content where I don't die for sure with my current gear and never had problems with any penalties the TE listed here.

As said it's just your ego guys that you don't take a step back and simply run the content where you don't bother about penalties bcs they simply don't happen.

And you know that I'm right here, even if it eats you up from inside.

You guys are used to trivial & liner progression like in D4 where the onlyway is forward instead of taing a step back and do the difficulty according to your character progression.

So,u are saying I should invest 80+ hours ands leave all of my loved ones for a game ?

There are many many problems with endgame at the moment. I've spent over 100 hours going through the Atlas without seeing a citadel. The maps that don't have content are boring and just feel like a chore having to pass through nodes to get to another boring tower to find a corrupted area with the maps that I want to run. The only endgame mechanic at the moment that is fun is Breach. Having to kill all rares on a map is crazy as the time I spend back tracking is boring and not engaging whatsoever. Bosses are one of the best parts of the game and they should be on every map.

Out of all this the worst thing by far about the endgame is 1 portal. Its a psychological destroyer. It has zero fun factor. Just makes you want to quit playing. My worry is GGG will stick to their guns with the 1 portal system so hard that they end up weakening everything almost to a point where it trivializes the game. I want it to be difficult. There needs to be a penalty to dying but this is way too much and it sucks the fun out.

I've played over 200 hours and have 2 characters over lvl 90 but I think that'll do it for me. I dont feel that even close to the majority of active players are in the end game so the retention doesn't quite reflect this but I feel it soon will.

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Tzarperssian#4164 wrote:

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CroDanZ#1818 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Stop trying to gaslight people and put words in their mouth. Nobody was ever talking about that here, people just want to enjoy a game without needlessly stressful 24/7 gameplay of fear of losing your map and exp. It's not that hard to understand.

If you complain about penalties you obviously die to often and simply don't play the content that suits your character.

I run content where I don't die for sure with my current gear and never had problems with any penalties the TE listed here.

As said it's just your ego guys that you don't take a step back and simply run the content where you don't bother about penalties bcs they simply don't happen.

And you know that I'm right here, even if it eats you up from inside.

You guys are used to trivial & liner progression like in D4 where the onlyway is forward instead of taing a step back and do the difficulty according to your character progression.

So,u are saying I should invest 80+ hours ands leave all of my loved ones for a game ?

If you're trying to compete with people that put in 80 hours, and you have 2 hours, of course you will never, ever be on their level, and you shouldn't be either.

Why do you feel entitled to get a free ride, with no effort?

Your issue is ego and entitlement, you can't accept that you don't get the same results as someone putting in 100x the effort.

Go to the gym and casually work out an hour a day, 3 days a week and than bitch you don't look like a body builder spending hours a day, going 5 times a week putting in the effort.

Play at your own pace and be happy, stop comparing yourself to others it will always make you unhappy with what you have.

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Sebastipole#0183 wrote:

Did the thought cross your mind that, if you can't do the map in 1 portal, you're not ready to do that content yet?

I know it's difficult, actually thinking and using your brain to work out this design philosophy.

But if you can't do it in 1 portal, you're not ready to do it, and you need to get better at the game mechanically or adjust your build to cope with the lack of skill.

Terrible argument, really. If you’re truly not ready for the content then having 6 portals won’t help you. You’ll just die 6 times.

With how squishy armor / life / evasion builds are you can die at any minute if you get even slightly unlucky. Having 1 death = exp loss, map loss and atlas mod loss is beyond stupid.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Wrong again. The game is just balanced to randomly oneshot people and its full of those kinds of spikes of damage and random on-death effects+archnemesis are everywhere in maps.

Than learn how to handle them....If I see certain mobs or rare mods I play T15 maps extra caucious bcs I know what is coming.

I learn from my mistakes and take a step back clear speed vise.

I bet you guys want to zoom through T15 like crazy and than complain if you land in an explosion during flicker strike. XD

And for those few hard predictable 1-shots that happen every 50 maps or so, those will surely be fixed soon...give the devs time to breathe man, they worked the last months like crazy and deserve peaceful holidays with theyr families?

Don't you think so? ;)