Early Access Feedback - Auction house for the love of god - Forum

Bump for AH support. It doesn't need to remove the social trading process/aspect for people who want that.	Posted by ballem707#7301 on Jan 21, 2025, 1:45:15 PM Quote this Post
+1 1600 hrs of PoE1 time as taught me that most people late in a league will end up ignoring requests to buy those items because their price is not worth interrupting what they are doing.	Posted by Ner0suM#7473 on Jan 21, 2025, 1:48:41 PM Quote this Post
+1 Hopefully the currency exchange system is their test run for this, and its already in the works.	Posted by Xndar#6927 on Jan 21, 2025, 1:50:42 PM Quote this Post
-1, used current system for 4k hrs in poe 1 and 450hrs in poe2. Works fine and I enjoy it actually.	Posted by Knuk#4425 on Jan 21, 2025, 1:55:04 PM Quote this Post
+1 Or leave the trading site up, but change the whisper function to a buy now button that automates the sale and item/currency transfer. Get rid of fake listings, non-responsive sellers, scammers swapping a different item during the trade in a hideout. What a pain in the ass the current system is. Make it better.	Posted by BootyTwerk#7842 on Jan 21, 2025, 2:03:25 PM Quote this Post
I am not saying that I would be against an auction house. But so many people put it up as the all saving holy grail, which it simply is not. An auction house has its own issues. " Lureahawk#2121 wrote: Ppl will buy out the lowest and sell it for higher: You mean like they can do now just as well on the trade site? If the item is readily available, they won't be able to buy it all. If it is only a few pieces. They can buy it. And if it is too high. It won't get sold. With an auction house bots will automatically buy cheap items withing 0.1 second to resell them for more. An auction house will amplify this a hundredfold. Nobody can compete with a bot. The human interaction in trade currently limits this a bit. When sellers get spammed by hundreds of whispers they tend to reprice the item. " Lureahawk#2121 wrote: No more ppl scamming newbies. Putting an item on the trade site for a lower price. Only to never respond to ppl, and make ppl think they need to sell it for the same price. Then have it bought buy the same scammers. And put up for more. On the other hand you have the situation where, especially newer players, don't know how to price an item correctly and put it up for too cheap. With an auction house, no chance, puff, the item is gone with 0.1 second, bought by a bot. We have already seen this in Diablo 3. With the current trade players have to chance to react to the mass of whispers and reprice the item. Just think about a player who knows nothing about attribute stacking, gets an Astramentis, does not know its value and puts it up for 2 Exalted Orbs. " Lureahawk#2121 wrote: Ppl can instantly get items they want to buy. This is the only benefit of an auction house. It is a very good one, but the only one. " Lureahawk#2121 wrote: Ppl who set up insane prices, like 9 999 999 mirrors for a item. Will not get anything sold unless they lower the price. Or wait long enough for it to become a acceptable price. That is no difference to the current trade system. " Lureahawk#2121 wrote: Faster pace of gear progression, then constantly refreshing the site. To see if some one put up a item you want/need. The whispering them. Hoping for a responds. Not getting one because they are in a trade with some one. Waiting some more because it is still on the site. Whispering again. Getting no responds. And so on for a long long time for a plethora of reasons. Only to not get the item in the end. And the second best option being sold already by then. Why would you think it would be faster pace gear progression? If the items are cheap, like said before, they are already gone, bought by a bot. Then you are left with the handful of fairly priced items. Do you think you are the one out of 1000 players wanting them who gets one of those 10 items, that were previously listed in the old system by players who did not respond? Even if so, still leaves the 990 players who don't. This point is simply wishful thinking.	Posted by Avaricta#4758 on Jan 21, 2025, 2:15:27 PM Quote this Post
" Lureahawk#2121 wrote: Hey GGG, Please, for the love of god. Add a auction house. You never added it in PoE1. For reasons i do not agree with. This is a chance to add it here. No casual player will want to sit at there PC waiting to sell something. because they need to be online and fast enough to respond to sell an item. And why no auction house? Prices fluctuate to much: Like in any other game. And the AH there is just fine. The lowest price is sold. The highest sits in the AH till it becomes the standard price again. Ppl will buy out the lowest and sell it for higher: You mean like they can do now just as well on the trade site? If the item is readily available, they won't be able to buy it all. If it is only a few pieces. They can buy it. And if it is too high. It won't get sold. There are to many variations of items: It seems to not be a problem on the site. So you know how to tackle that problem. it's just a lot of work. There will be ppl selling for real money: I don't know why a AH would do that more then any other trade. But ok. There are already gold/orb trade sites online. They have been there for PoE1 as well. Anyone can PTW there gear if they want to in PoE1. A AH does not change that fact. Rather. You can control it batter to not have it happen. ------------- Why to get a AH? No more ppl scamming newbies. Putting an item on the trade site for a lower price. Only to never respond to ppl, and make ppl think they need to sell it for the same price. Then have it bought buy the same scammers. And put up for more. No more whispering ppl for a trade that don't respond because they are just putting the item up to manipulate the market. Or are to busy to notice you/care. (for ex, the item is not worth enough for them to go out of a map/party at that time) No more waiting online to sell a item. You can just play the game and items will be sold where ever you are. online or not. Ppl can instantly get items they want to buy. Ppl can't put up fake low prices because they would be bought instantly. Ppl who set up insane prices, like 9 999 999 mirrors for a item. Will not get anything sold unless they lower the price. Or wait long enough for it to become a acceptable price. Faster pace of gear progression, then constantly refreshing the site. To see if some one put up a item you want/need. The whispering them. Hoping for a responds. Not getting one because they are in a trade with some one. Waiting some more because it is still on the site. Whispering again. Getting no responds. And so on for a long long time for a plethora of reasons. Only to not get the item in the end. And the second best option being sold already by then. -------------- As i mentioned in the PoE1 forums. There are plenty of more reasons why a AH would VASTLY improve quality of life for players in this game. And how many games have already implemented a good AH. I would be happy to give possible solutions on any reason you might still have to not add a AH in PoE2. The only thing i don't have a solution for is cost :p And yes, i am well aware this is a giant pain to put in to a game. No Auction House in PoE 2? That’s Just Lazy Here’s a list of games with auction houses that prove Path of Exile 2 has no excuse: EverQuest (1999) Ragnarok Online (2002) Final Fantasy XI (2002) EVE Online (2003) World of Warcraft (2004) Final Fantasy XIV (2010) ArcheAge (2013) The Elder Scrolls Online (2014) Black Desert Online (2016) Albion Online (2017) These games span decades and offer player-driven trading systems that are accessible and functional. Meanwhile, Path of Exile relies on outdated trade methods that force players to use third-party tools. How is this acceptable in 2025? If developers could figure this out over 20 years ago, there’s no reason PoE 2 can’t have an auction house. This isn’t about “philosophy”; it’s about refusing to modernize because they cater to the RMT's that dominate the current trade system and market. Grinding Gear Games, take note—this is long overdue. Why Do People Oppose Auction Houses? Follow the Money. Let’s break this down: the people most vocally against auction houses in games like Path of Exile often have something to gain from the current system. The trading process allows for: Price Manipulation: Without a transparent, centralized system, scammers can inflate or deflate prices through market collusion. They prey on inexperienced players who don’t know the fair value of items. Exploiting Frustration: Many players don’t have time for endless trade whispers or haggling. This frustration is exploited by individuals who lowball desperate sellers and resell items for massive profit margins. Gatekeeping New Players / Casuals: The complexity of manual trading acts as a barrier, keeping less experienced players from participating in the economy. This ensures that veterans or "market sharks" maintain their dominance. Third-Party Tools and RMT (Real Money Trading): Some of these individuals rely on third-party tools or even real-money trading. A proper auction house would cut into their shady operations by making trading transparent and accessible to everyone. An auction house can mitigate these opportunities for exploitation. Transparent pricing and convenient access level the playing field, benefiting the majority while eliminating the advantages scammers and cheats currently enjoy. Anyone fighting against that probably has something to lose on the black market.	Posted by Sirius_Man#0785 on Jan 21, 2025, 2:21:03 PM Quote this Post
The website is good enough you do not need a auction house, what you'll need is the ability to automatically trade when you pick our pick on the trade side. Just drop ship it. I want gear X and the other party wants item X if i have the required items then trade with out inviting to party then trade put in items etc. Just a drop ship box where you can pickup the items.	Posted by Nesi#9241 on Jan 21, 2025, 2:30:00 PM Quote this Post
Trading sucks we need in game AH !	Posted by AtmaMonkey#9518 on Jan 21, 2025, 2:36:19 PM Quote this Post
I think it would be good to have limit, like 5-10 items per day, to prevent excessive flipping.	Posted by Gosen#5296 on Jan 21, 2025, 2:37:39 PM Quote this Post