Please consider making SSF fully separated mode

Trade league is a legit (and default) way to play but I personally do not enjoy trading at all. Dropping or crafting the weapon you've been looking for is extremely rewarding but buying the same is... not. But as it stands now, most of the time your options are to trade or get by without.

I understand that adjusting drop rates in normal mode is challenging and needs to be done carefully in order to not nuke the economy. Changing them in SSF would be simpler but changing SSF is changing normal since the items would bleed into trade.

I propose doing a full separation between trade and SSF so that it wouldn't be possible to transfer from SSF to trade or vice versa. After that, adjust drop rates of currency/items or affix balance to increase the chance of higher tier mods. Or all of the above. The goal would be to make reaching late game more achievable for more builds. It doesn't need to be fast but currently it's possible only by pretty extreme time commitment.

This way, SSF wouldn't be a self-imposed challenge mode you can opt out of at later point but a different gearing method. And it would preserve trade league as it is currently and maybe serve as a test bed for possible future changes on trade leagues too.

ps. I undestand that some do clear everything in POE1 and at least soon POE2 in SSF HC ruthless or whatnot but game and droprates are pretty clearly balanced with trading option in mind.

PPS. This applies to both POE1 and POE2. But I put this on POE2 feedback since trying brave new things might be easier in early access. And POE2 can be pretty painful as it stands without trading since you are very gear bound when RNGeesus doesn't shine on you.

couldn't agree more!
make ssf a fun alternative experience not castrated by the need for a balanced economy for those of us who hate trading and want to play builds that use fun unique effects and don't rely on crafting know-how

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And, most importantly, the decision to play in the league where trading isn't a thing, and the game / loot system has been rebalanced to account for the lack of trade, should not necessitate forfeiting the ability to play with friends.

We should be able to play the self found mode, with altered self found loot and balance, with other people.
Solo self found is awful.
Group self found would be great.

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The_Song#4903 wrote:

We should be able to play the self found mode, with altered self found loot and balance, with other people.
Solo self found is awful.
Group self found would be great.

These exist as private leagues in PoE1 and likely will come to PoE2 at some point in the future

I would love this so much! One thing to consider would be a solution to target farm uniques (a tedious, grindy but possible one).

I don't want to play trade leaque because playing efficient in trade leaque for a gaming dad is to grind currency and buy stuff, never interacting with crafting or basically your own loot. Which completely deletes the fun loop for me.

I usually end up in my own strange semi ssf. Where I start off a leaque in SSF switch over to trade to grugingly buy a build enabeling unique. Then stick semi SSF until I start trading another rare and another. And then poe 1 leaques are over for me because I killed my own fun. But it happens every time!
A strict SSF mode would be great for myself!

SSF progress as it is currently in poe 2 feels rough. I rarely see upgrades. I do love the crafting system (slamming is fun!) but its all very dry and I think in white maps there should be regular upgrades yet and my gear definitly has room for them but in many slots I just have my campaing gear still. I can't even dream of capping resis at the moment

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The_Song#4903 wrote:

And, most importantly, the decision to play in the league where trading isn't a thing, and the game / loot system has been rebalanced to account for the lack of trade, should not necessitate forfeiting the ability to play with friends.

We should be able to play the self found mode, with altered self found loot and balance, with other people.
Solo self found is awful.
Group self found would be great.

+1

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We should be able to play the self found mode, with altered self found loot and balance, with other people.
Solo self found is awful.
Group self found would be great.

It will come, private leagues you can buy for a group of friends you want to play with. Did it with POE1.

Patience~

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