Arc is legit busted. Casting arc and Conductivity for all T16's

Let's open by saying I have tried to play Arc legit. But lets get some things straight.

On the passive tree from Sorceress there is a elemental damage wheel. IN that wheel making it to the center you get these bonuses:
30% Elemental damage for shocked enemies
30% Elemental damage for chilled enemies
30% Elemental damage for ignited enemies

I have removed these nodes in order for my right click and "Q" key - conductivity build to work. Let me tell you why.

Arc pretty much is instant cast. I had my build set up for a while to take advantage of these nodes. But after the cast on shock was removed/ nerfed into the ground. it made using the triple damage type on mobs much harder. Not to mention with +8 to Arc they are getting blown to pieces.

Now electrocute was performing well and with Kitoko's being such a low level item the added defense's it gives these builds early is needed. The way to fix this wasn't to break electrocute so bad that now i swap to Tenure uniques that gives 100% spell damage LOL

You should have made Electrocute only available on the gloves and tuned it down some. I am sad to see how you are nerfing builds. Mine will never be public. Ill show my ES regen and recharge rate if you wanna see it but good luck recreating it.

So For Now let me list all the things that currently lower Arc's DPS and why it makes it a one button build.

Let's start with the obvious.

Archmage: basically 100 spirit for 100% DPS - no brainer here.

Ailment- can't play this need more dps
Critical strikes - Can't play this need more DPS

What the heck man, fix these gems you need some help I can show you a way !

SO let's look at what we can't do now. We can't shock, we can't crit and we can play more than 2 button builds. LOL

Balance is so borked.

One last thing. You may or may not have patched it up, but 1 of the random affliction in trial of Sekhemas gives zero energy shield. that leaves One hp for Chaos Innoculation users making it a one hit run.

I suggest adding Random Affliction "Life becomes Zero" just for balance.

Would love to see the community response if you do it :)

It's the exact way every Chaos Innoculation build player will feel about it. The only reason they aren't crying is because we are the advanced players and whether or not you listen to any of our feedback. We don't care and will thrive in a game like this with Rarity.

Overall, I'll give you a 10/10 on the game. I love it
One sad Exile
Last edited by MFQUANT#4363 on Dec 19, 2024, 12:26:45 PM
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i assume u are talking about controlled destruction and elemental focus support gems?

When playing in northen part of skill tree i dont think either of those support gems are good choice.

elemental focus vs shock.
shock can be buffed massively. I have lvl 75 stormweaver which shocks for 41% and she will later pick a second shock which will add to 82% shock.
then i use lightning conduit with electrocution support gem which greatly electrocutes slow enemies.

controlled destruction gives about 19% more damage (less because of lost crit). 19% is pretty low so other gems like considered casting could replace it and so it also opens crit scaling.

its kinda a bummer that archmage reserves 100% spirit, but im not sure if archmage is that good anyways, since added damage stacks additively with each other which means having archmage it makes lightning storm gem's added damage worse, mings heart rings added damage worse, wand/staff added damage mod worse. so its not a clean cut here i think.

either way i think it would be nice to have more spirit skills since now its either archmage or cast on x or weak blasphemy.
Last edited by Andrius319#4787 on Dec 19, 2024, 1:09:05 PM
Gotta give it another week or so.

They'll wait till at least 50% of players respec to arc during the christmas holidays then brick their builds new years day lmao.

If they nerf it too early they wouldn't get nearly as many people and where's the fun in that?

(this is mostly a joke, nerfs take time, but they should do a better job indicating what they plan to tune down so people can take that into account)
Last edited by pattw555#0071 on Dec 19, 2024, 1:53:07 PM
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pattw555#0071 wrote:
Gotta give it another week or so.

They'll wait till at least 50% of players respec to arc during the christmas holidays then brick their builds new years day lmao.

If they nerf it too early they wouldn't get nearly as many people and where's the fun in that?


QFT
This thread confuses me. Is it some kind of weird flex? Are you saying arc is in a bad spot but you are owning with it because you are a god?

I think that scaling and balance are still being explored, though. If things aren't broken (one shotting pinnacle boss) or bugged, I wouldn't expect them to get too much attention.
Is there a link to this build? I'm a little confused - you're talking as if we're all deeply familiar with some hot new meta arc build but, speaking for myself, I'm not.
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i assume u are talking about controlled destruction and elemental focus support gems?

When playing in northen part of skill tree i dont think either of those support gems are good choice.

elemental focus vs shock.
shock can be buffed massively. I have lvl 75 stormweaver which shocks for 41% and she will later pick a second shock which will add to 82% shock.
then i use lightning conduit with electrocution support gem which greatly electrocutes slow enemies.

controlled destruction gives about 19% more damage (less because of lost crit). 19% is pretty low so other gems like considered casting could replace it and so it also opens crit scaling.

its kinda a bummer that archmage reserves 100% spirit, but im not sure if archmage is that good anyways, since added damage stacks additively with each other which means having archmage it makes lightning storm gem's added damage worse, mings heart rings added damage worse, wand/staff added damage mod worse. so its not a clean cut here i think.

either way i think it would be nice to have more spirit skills since now its either archmage or cast on x or weak blasphemy.


Mages overall running out of good support gems. I were making crit-cold sorc. I cannot use elemental focus(i loose my main defensive layer and CoF energy).I cannot use controll destruction(i loose damage). Crit support gems are total shit. I have only 1 cold pen, 1 cold mastery,1 cast speed for my frost bolts,unleash for nova,some specifis gems for icewall etc. Im also were running 1 coc setup and elemntal storm from ascendancy. You know what?at 3~4 links im running out of gem. And my second charcter is summoner - minion mages have same issue. You can use "faster casting" and feeding frenzy with cold/lighting pen,but this is almost that it...like +1 minion mastery and +1 cold/lightning mastery.
Brother, look at the leaderboards. Its stormweaver galore, people doing lightning builds up the ass. My friend is doing one, and he has tinkered with a couple different builds, all around lightning, and he's not playing his stormweaver anymore because he got bored of it. Probably because all he has to do is hold left click (spark) and the mobs on his screen disappear. Doesn't even have to aim really. Stormweavers are in a really strong spot right now it seems, with relatively little investment and theorycrafting to get a really top tier build.

Now go talk to melee builds, or witch builds, and wrap your head around that.
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This thread confuses me. Is it some kind of weird flex? Are you saying arc is in a bad spot but you are owning with it because you are a god?

I think that scaling and balance are still being explored, though. If things aren't broken (one shotting pinnacle boss) or bugged, I wouldn't expect them to get too much attention.


It's not a flex at all. I'm pointing out that I would prefer to play Arc as a viable shock or crit build or both, not neither because Mana sustain cannot be properly achieved without using gems that Restrict this build into the pigeon hole, it currently is in. Play with it.
One sad Exile
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i assume u are talking about controlled destruction and elemental focus support gems?

When playing in northen part of skill tree i dont think either of those support gems are good choice.

elemental focus vs shock.
shock can be buffed massively. I have lvl 75 stormweaver which shocks for 41% and she will later pick a second shock which will add to 82% shock.
then i use lightning conduit with electrocution support gem which greatly electrocutes slow enemies.

controlled destruction gives about 19% more damage (less because of lost crit). 19% is pretty low so other gems like considered casting could replace it and so it also opens crit scaling.

its kinda a bummer that archmage reserves 100% spirit, but im not sure if archmage is that good anyways, since added damage stacks additively with each other which means having archmage it makes lightning storm gem's added damage worse, mings heart rings added damage worse, wand/staff added damage mod worse. so its not a clean cut here i think.

either way i think it would be nice to have more spirit skills since now its either archmage or cast on x or weak blasphemy.


SO I assume you are talking shock magnitude. Look at how much shock gives extra as dps it is 20%. So at 100% magnitude you get. 40% total.

Use the 2 gems, look at the mana cost and read what they do. put them in you'll be pleasantly Surprised.

As far as Archmage. It's nearly 100% sheet dps. Shock ain't doing that at 300% magnitude.
One sad Exile
Last edited by MFQUANT#4363 on Dec 19, 2024, 3:58:13 PM

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