Viewerbase is plummeting on platforms, market reception is negative

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himenoinu#2580 wrote:

And while there are plenty of issues with PoE2, I'd rather they stick to their guns and not turn into the same brain-dead, follow-the-guides, buy-your-gear, win-the-game playstyle. We already have that.

Sticking with their guns is what had the PoE1 community miserably endure things like Archnemesis mods and the Lake of Kalandra loot updates, both products of the "vision" that utterly failed to accomplish what they intended, both things Chris Wilson tried to convince the playerbase was good for them, and both needing to be walked back.

It will be the same in this game. The gameplay itself is good, but the "vision" has once again polluted the game with a lot of pointless, anti-player choices that do nothing but take away from the experience.

Alt orbs will be back and this idea that we're going to get our dopamine from loot drops on items that require rolls on 6 affixes (most of which don't help your specific character) will be abandoned. Trial of Sekhemas/Ultimatum Ascension will be removed or completely reworked. Support gems will need to be overhauled.

This is just a short list of the things that I'd almost guarantee will change before full release, and probably much sooner. Watch the playerbase plummet in the coming weeks otherwise.

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xenigmatica#6388 wrote:

Game is bad and losing players

>information added about steam player counts.

>waved off as "not real" and belittled as bad players/bad people being the ones making up that count.

I hate the internet.

Don't hate it, realize that these takes are very obviously unreasonable and are likely to be ignored.
Makes it easier for constructive feedback to be seen and addressed.

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 wrote:

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xenigmatica#6388 wrote:

Game is bad and losing players

>information added about steam player counts.

>waved off as "not real" and belittled as bad players/bad people being the ones making up that count.

I hate the internet.

Don't hate it, realize that these takes are very obviously unreasonable and are likely to be ignored.
Makes it easier for constructive feedback to be seen and addressed.

My concern is that the shallow thought complaints, the ones like "the game is bad because i got hit in the trial of the sekhama" are spammed so often here by angry people trying and failing at gameplay, that the sheer amount of crap GGG has to sift through to find something valid to address is overpowering and relevant feedback either is severely delayed in reaching them, or never does.

and these same people dumping the crap onto the forums will then turn around and say "ggg never addresses concerns" when they're literally the problem because memeing over "haha bad game xd" and stuff like that gets in the way of actually addressing things.

It's just embarrassing being associated to this is all. I want to help this game but so many here don't want to.

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Virginiaponics#3966 wrote:

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Soop#0082 wrote:

400k playing mid week on steam alone.

Touch grass.

400k, at least 100k of that is pure bots/not real, the other 300k is still stuck in act 1/2/3 .

You forget most of the people playing this game have like, a child in a carseat on their desk, living at home with mommy/daddy etc, and have nothing better to do than waste time on this.


Also staring at a steam charts number is NOT an indicator of a good game.

They made a bad game thats overtly difficult for the normies, 99% of population was still in act 1 after week 1....

Once that 99% hits end game or even if they make it there they will see theres no substance here

The game has problems, i criticized them alot, but they already fixed alot of the problems, with the loot, one shots, etc, some problems are abit deeper than that, but the game is in a better place now and i will give them time, i started playing PoE 1 more than 12 years ago, and while i tend to forget that it was a very different game back then, it´s kinda "sad" but they have to start from the beginning, or in 4 leagues it will be out of control already, baby steps now, i get kinda mad too sometimes, but ill let them cook.

Btw im sure the game will be a completely different experience in the release, just the acts, all those classes and ascendancies, probably a way more interesting endgame with way more different maps and bosses, cool PoI's to find , way more skills, support gems etc, i really wanted all that now, but it is what it is.

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Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index#1288 wrote:

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pred88#4642 wrote:

Lol. You would have loved closed beta of PoE1.

running vaal/fellshrine over and over again? >.> pls no

True, im kinda mad at some stuff going on in PoE 2 too, but we tend to forget how PoE 1 started and we all enjoyed every second of it, be it farming docks countless times and getting constantly obliterated by those pesky flame spitting dogs, times when Andvarius was a prized item, Lioneyes Glare was a top top tier item (was my first big drop in a party and everyone there was trying to scam me kek), hell for the first leagues i played i barely climbed map tiers, i remember kripp exalting maps to try and sustain and everyone going crazy over it, PoE 1 was really ruthless back then, gotta give time to the devs, the journey is long, im still mad at them, but they are fixing stuff and afterall they must have gone trough hell to get this released and they diserve their holydays.

Whichever way you paint it a decent sized portion of the player base has dropped it 12 days in. Steam peak was like 580k and it's peaked at 400k today thats close to 1/3 of the player base has dropped it altogether in only 12 days, plenty are solidering on dispite having real issues with the game.

People were defending Arch nem back in 3.19 was it? Basically universally hated.
All i can personally say is i have dropped it and the 3 other people i league start with have dropped it not far into the endgame because we don't find it enjoyable.

1 portal sucks when the games so rippy, unless you're playing a few broken builds the games just a tedious slog, accendacy trials are horrible, the only viable minion build has already been nerfed when it's not even close to OP, crafting doesn't exist it's 100% rng and dumbed down an absurd amount, most of the zones / end game have zero gore, the gameplay is so slow it's genuinely boring, it's just not immersive as an arpg.

I get it that you´re mad, i kinda am too at some decisions, but the 580K players was on a friday going into the weekend (we are midweek now), and we are closer and closer to the holydays, so many people is out of town to be with their family etc, it´s not really honest to say that.

Let them cook, complain about the stuff you think has no place in the game still, but let them cook, ill make my decisions on full launch.

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MakaveliPT#7753 wrote:

I get it that you´re mad, i kinda am too at some decisions, but the 580K players was on a friday going into the weekend (we are midweek now), and we are closer and closer to the holydays, so many people is out of town to be with their family etc, it´s not really honest to say that.

Let them cook, complain about the stuff you think has no place in the game still, but let them cook, ill make my decisions on full launch.

I'm not mad buddy, just find it amusing that people are telling people to "go touch grass" for leaving feedback in a feedback fourm because that's not their personal experience.

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Virginiaponics#3966 wrote:

Whats the future plans here? Will this game ever be like POE 1 or we just gonna remain silent, nerf fun and remove customers?

To be brutally honest, im putting in a refund.

Over 4000 Hours on the base game poe1, this game is d o g s h i t. It plays and feels like some weird arcade joystick game, when you can play an arpg with a fight stick, you know we have fallen.

OMG 10mil ppl aren't watching the exact same EA gameplay they've had 2 weeks to see...... GAME IS DEAD ALREADY!!!!!! Like what do you expect????? Most ppl play poe the first 2 weeks of a season and are done. With even less content than a normal season it only took ppl a couple days to figure the game out and reach maps. And we're not going to get anything new until late January the earliest what do you expect ppl to watch???? Most ppl just mute and watched for the drops anyway they couldn't care less about streamers. I'll never understand watching someone else play video games, like sure looking up an answer to a question or if you're the type to use build guides. It's not like this game takes much skill, it's just understanding of the systems in place than RNG. Yeah it takes abit more skill than POE1 as you now have actual 1 shot mechanics you need to deal with in boss fights but it's still the same as always do as much dmg as possible to phase a boss quick.

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accelerantqt#2560 wrote:

I'm not mad buddy

Doomposting? mad.

Good luck with your other games.