Skill feedback : Arc

Hello, yes i'm quirky i decided to play with arc ! (joke aside i played 95% of my sorc with spark) note that this feedback only concern endgame spark has i din't use it before today. (For the record i'm doing t18 map)

I think thematically arc make sense however i have a few issue with it mainly in term of gamefeel but also a bit regarding balence if we take spark has a baseline for spell power.

Compare to spark you trade off clearing for a bit more single target dps i think that trade off make sense (although i think you could argue arc should deal a bit more dmg) but there is a an issue with the speed at which arc propagate to target making it feel quit bad to use especially into breach. Lets forsee a theoretical situation so you can picture the problem :

You are getting swarm by 12 mobs ( we will name each mob Xn ) all separated by Y distance from each other excepted for X1 and X12, the front lanner who are a bit more seprated. In this hypothetical situation even with a 12 chain arc by the time arc reach X12 he will have hited you and stun / dmg what ever.

It could very much be a design choice but imo it just feel really bad and it's the main drawback of this spell. I think there is 3 solutions, increase arc propagation speed, arc area of propagation or some combination of both.

About the general balance i think arc is okey however, compared to arc the dmg buff isn't that much significant so perhaps a dmg buff could be of use (some flat or what i would prefer is a buff to cast speed, to me it doesn't make that much sense that arc has more cast speed than arc, cast speed also would give a better feeling) Or maybe spark is just to strong and need a nerf.

edit : Keep in mind that i took 12 mobs has an exemple because my arc chain 12 time but i've seen it happened with way fewer mob.

Feels bad to be the lone arc user of the game, nobody care lmao.

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LineArck#6395 wrote:

Feels bad to be the lone arc user of the game, nobody care lmao.

Don't worry, you're not alone!
Arc is my favorite skill, but I'm just not playing right now. I'm waiting for the release or at least what I consider decent condition for satisfactory playing. I just come here from time to time to check reviews and game changes.
But anyway, I've always loved arc!

There is something i want to add.

GGG, Arc is sometimes not working right.
I know there is LoS rules in place and others aswell but on some occasions you have enemies just standing there and arc hits the ground below the monster instead of connecting to it. Ok there could be obstacles and the line of sight is broken. You run sideways, create LoS, activate monsters by hitting them at the end, monster (melee btw.) start charging you. You cast all your Arcs. Arc still doesn't connect and hits ground. You see E-Shield of monster recharging... Wait what?

Maybe with the comming patch this issue will be resolved, i'll update you if it does.

I just came to see if there is an Arc thread!
So basically - true. Arc chaining speed is very slow. And you often get overrun with mobs even tho it is suppose to be clearing spell (at least I think so).
I am lvl 91 and played Arc from very start. Currently at T15's. I like how clean game looks playing Arc in comparasing to Spark or even other spells. However sometimes it feels very bad in high density.

First - there is a chain speed
Second - Arc is namelock spell and sometimes you cant even hold your bind beacuse mob dies and you target the ground and cast into nothingness.
Third - as guy above mentioned sometimes it feels like you can't aim at the mob and just cast into the ground.

I feel like some autotargeting should be considered, like when you play PoE1 and have spell echo you second cast autoaims.

Also, I would be very happy if baseline PoE2 Arc would be like Arc of Surging in PoE1.
It feels 3 times better to clear and single target is comparable.

I mean, come on, its a LIGHTNING spell, it should chain with speed close to speed of light XD

It's really sad but spark is just superior to arc in every way.

Must be feedback from spark enjoyer in POE elite group.

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Bagama89#1854 wrote:

I mean, come on, its a LIGHTNING spell, it should chain with speed close to speed of light XD

Exactly.

Please GGG make Arc fast again!

ive really tried to make arc archmage work
and technically it did
but spark archmage is just a lot better in every situation
even single target, arc is just kinda buttcheeks

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kiffa01#0340 wrote:

There is something i want to add.

GGG, Arc is sometimes not working right.
I know there is LoS rules in place and others aswell but on some occasions you have enemies just standing there and arc hits the ground below the monster instead of connecting to it. Ok there could be obstacles and the line of sight is broken. You run sideways, create LoS, activate monsters by hitting them at the end, monster (melee btw.) start charging you. You cast all your Arcs. Arc still doesn't connect and hits ground. You see E-Shield of monster recharging... Wait what?

Maybe with the comming patch this issue will be resolved, i'll update you if it does.

Just a +1 on confirmation that this also happened to me.
A noticeable proportion of casts, Arc just hit the ground next to a mob and stop.

Wish they could come up with some fundamental way to make skills unique or you just end up with this situation, another spell with same properties (low mana lightning spell) is just better, and you're not even getting into stuff like spark + flame wall.