PoE 2s shortcomings hurt cause they came at the price of PoE 1 improvements - Emotional Rant

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Etvein#1213 wrote:

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Urza_Mechwalker#7393 wrote:

Where I disagree with this take is.. on the very first video they have shown is of POE2.. the exact same day they announced it.. it was CLEAR it would be slower and harder. They start it showign combination of skills and you can clearly see the pace being much slower. Why so many decided to ignore what was clearly being shown?

GGG never lied about the game. They always shown footage presenting what we have now!

Before they showed any clips, before Ruthless, they announced 4.0 and said they were working on it. This was the start of PoE 2 development and it was supposed to be as you can see PoE 1 update.

In the end it's a different game that is way slower and way more punishing.

So basically it was like:

4.0 -> Ruthless (secret pre alpha testing kind of) -> "PoE 2 is going to be slower" announcements - PoE 2

So where is the 4.0 that they announced?

At the announcement of 4.0 they had the huntress footage if memory serves me.. and it was already SLOWER. That is why I said.. that I expected that from day 1.

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KaosuRyoko#1633 wrote:

OP summarized my feelings well.
PoE2 isn't bad, it's pretty good. It's also not the zoom zoom game which is what kept me playing PoE1. I'll keep at it because I'm optimistic about GGG, but this doesn't feel like an experience that will keep pulling me back every league yet personally.

Which would all be fine if we hadn't lost literally 50% of PoE1 content already this year. Which they explicitly told us wasn't supposed to happen. The content we did get was recycled or assets from/testing for 2. Ruthless was just supposed to be a for fun side thing, but it was the template for a lot in PoE2 like many of us assumed. It really feels like they're already planning to sunset PoE1 and just not telling us. I hope I'm wrong, but I also know how hard it is to develop multiple products simultaneously - one pretty much always ends up in maintenance mode unless you double your team size.

O sincirelly see no correlation at all of ruthless with POE2. They are completely different. In 2 areas of POE2 you get more loot than in whole campaign of ruthless.

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BlueTemplar85#0647 wrote:

Heh, fair point.
I was not sure if GGG was foolish enough to actually state this : got a link ?

Now that I look for it I only find minimum 6 months, but I'm quite sure Jonathan said 6-12 in recent interview (in the build-up for EA release. May be he was over-confident. I'm sure if I looked up more I would find it.

Do with that as you will :)

...wait I couldn't let it go. Here : https://www.gameleap.com/articles/when-will-path-of-exile-2-fully-release

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When Will Path of Exile 2 Officially Release?
Path of Exile 2's early access officially released on December 6th, 2024, and in the lead-up to the launch of the game, game director Jonathan Rogers was asked many times about when we can expect the release of the full game. In these interviews, his answer was "at least 6 months" and "between 6 and 12 months," with both of these estimates referring to the December 6th release of early access. From this information, we can expect Path of Exile 2 to fully release somewhere between April and December of 2025, unless there are more delays. Jonathan Rogers also said in one of the early access previews that "the rest of the game is 80% there," so a 2025 release is very likely to happen.

Imagine believing for a second that PoE1 was going to continue being supported.

Thanks for the link ! (even if an indirect quote)

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Etvein#1213 wrote:

I am sorry in advance for answering in a 1.2.3. kind of way, it's just easier for me as a non native English speaker.

Same here, not sure why you would apologize for trying to be clear ?

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2) The fact you didn't use a TP staff or Enigma doesn't mean anything as the game gave us the option to use these things. So the choice was there, you just decided not to play with it which is okay, but PoE 2 just says "take it or leave" we have no options.

Wouldn't teleport staff only work with non-weapon builds ? Or do you constantly keep switching weapons or something ??
Isn't Enigma ridiculously hard to get, especially without trading, so the equivalent of (at least) getting to PoE2 maps first ?

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3) Never played any D2 mods, I'd actually try them if they had the D2R graphics. The old graphics just look ugly on modern wide screens IMO

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5) As for Median, I prefer D2R ladder resets since as I said I just can't fathom the older graphics on my PC, it just looks distorted and ugly IMO.

But to be honest I might give it a chance anyway.

I finally caved in and bought D2R... only to not be able to enjoy it and giving up in Act1 because there seems to be an issue (due to ActiBlizz outsourcing development ?) with random stuttering (so it lags even worse than PoE2, which is something...)

Yeah, you would want to play with black bars instead.
But that was before, we've had solutions to that for more a decade, including pushing D2 to ridiculous resolutions if you wish so :

(Though IIRC recent versions of Median XL try to stick to a specific 4:3 resolution for balance reasons ?)
And more recently we've had ways to try to replicate the cathodic pixel-smoothing on liquid crystal displays too : Glide Wrappers.
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P.S. Also man, you are a great person to talk to, I had to say. Most interactions on this forum this week were really toxic

Well, thanks, though it's funny considering that I came into this thread being pretty aggressive.
Sadly, popular / action / competitive games like PoE seem to attract a lot of toxic players...

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Arakki#6986 wrote:

GGG fiscal year ends Sep 30, they have to either release a full game with league content and with supporter packs by around mid-Sep 2025 or they are in a hot pickle with Tencent.

Hmm, while Tencent is a public company, it's not exactly a Western-public company (despite most of the control being nominally South African), and it has a reputation for being hands-off about its development studios ?

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Urza_Mechwalker#7393 wrote:

O sincirelly see no correlation at all of ruthless with POE2. They are completely different. In 2 areas of POE2 you get more loot than in whole campaign of ruthless.

Have you only tried Ruthless until like Innocence ??
(Or maybe only on its release ? From what I've heard, Ruthless now drops a lot more... at least in challenge leagues ?)

plot twist: POE2 is a beta test for changes they want to make in POE1

I be damned, didnt expect anything like the responses I got here already.
Im glad to see im not the only one feeling emotional in some way about this. Wether you like or dislike any Game/version.

Stay sane, Exiles!