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It appears the market is currently over-run with fake traders - people posting things at low prices with no intention of ever selling them.
Their goal is to get others to also post that item at too low a price, then snap it up and resell it at a higher price.
There needs to be some sort of punishment/trade lock out system for not selling a posted item or responding to trade requests, I can't think of another way to solve this without implementing a buy-on-click system, which I know GGG has stated they'll never do.
As an alternative punishment, I think a swift quick in the nuts would do.
However, I think shadow-banning their listings if they reach a certain threshold of trade requests ignored would be slightly easier to implement.
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If anyone can explain the issue with hiding an item from trade searches that has 100+ whispers from individual players in a given time period, with no responses from the poster, I'm all ears. I don't believe a compelling reason has been given yet (other than from our token price fixer).
Your best action is to just press ignore on them, whenever they dont answer in a certain time and you feel like their price is pretty low.
Gets rid of that one fixer for you.
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Wanna know who's responsible for sneaky stuff like that?
Go on Twitch and check out PoE2 .
All top PoE1 streamers you see ''grinding'' pay close attention to their drops while they are streaming.
Never of any worth ever drops , yet their party (people they always play with) is fully capped on mats.
They already have rarest items , multiples of each , all of them.
Those are people who promote PoE and people GGG gives all benefits to.
Scammers, RMT , basically people responsive for ruining whole PoE trading system.
But no surprise there. It happens in CoD , D2 , D4 , Last Epoch , and its gonna happen here as well. As long as Activision, Blizzard , Eleventh Hour Games and GGG benefits off of those streamers (free 24/7 promotion on biggest streaming platform) they will allow them to behave any way they want.
Wow thats one of the dumbest thing i've ever read in this forum. And i read a lot of the post-nerf threads.
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Posted byBrohl#5363on Dec 15, 2024, 4:04:17 PM
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An automated Auction House that just auto-sells anything you post to another player would fix all trade problems instantly. Just look at how useful Faustus was, now imagine how good it would feel to be able to pricecheck any item, any equipment, any unique and just click a button to insta-sell it for the recommended market price. It would be the best qol in the game's history.
GGG has stated they'll never implement an in-game auction house, and quite frankly I agree with them, it's one of their stances I respect the most honestly.
In game auction houses have destroyed the economies of more games than most will ever realize. This is coming from someone who's probably spent more time in many games playing the economy of the game than the actual game.
I just think there are a couple tweaks they can make to the current setup to significantly improve it and the game economy.
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Posted bypattw555#0071on Dec 15, 2024, 4:08:42 PM
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Wow thats one of the dumbest thing i've ever read in this forum. And i read a lot of the post-nerf threads.
Lmao, the part about GGG sanctioning streamers abusing the economy is pretty absurd.
But I think he's not wrong that the people that accumulate the most resources and wealth are the ones that abuse the trade system in the way I'm describing (and I'm sure there are MANY other methods of abuse currently less well known being taken advantage of).
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Posted bypattw555#0071on Dec 15, 2024, 4:11:14 PM
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Trade in games is always Toxic.
They should balance the game around SSF and remove trade.
PoE 1 is fantastic and actually challenging in SSF. PoE 2 is a lot of fun in SSF. Trade would really trivialize it(and probably does) IMO.
Chris' nostalgia that he always talked about Trading in D2 being some magical experience, was way more overhyped in his head than in reality. I played D2 since launch and still play to this day(about 15K hours), and in all that time trading was always toxic and a mess. There was never any real great feeling about it. It trivialized that game too.
The only thing D3 did right was remove trading.
Remove trade GGG!
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Posted byLennyGhoul#7115on Dec 15, 2024, 4:18:16 PM
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Trade in games is always Toxic.
They should balance the game around SSF and remove trade.
PoE 1 is fantastic and actually challenging in SSF. PoE 2 is a lot of fun in SSF. Trade would really trivialize it(and probably does) IMO.
Chris' nostalgia that he always talked about Trading in D2 being some magical experience, was way more overhyped in his head than in reality. I played D2 since launch and still play to this day(about 15K hours), and in all that time trading was always toxic and a mess. There was never any real great feeling about it. It trivialized that game too.
The only thing D3 did right was remove trading.
Remove trade GGG!
I don't know that toxic is the right word. Trade is competitive, it's another form of PVP, and that's fine.
But when you add PVP to a game, you need rules around it, I think they just need to tweak some of the rules of trading.
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Posted bypattw555#0071on Dec 15, 2024, 4:22:48 PM
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