3rd ascendancy trial is a bad joke - RNG+horrid balance=waste of time

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

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Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index#1288 wrote:

my spark currently sits at 399 mana

Cool, i have to literally pay life while having 2k of it, i could maybe get 400 more with perfect life rolls on gear. Thats how f'ed up blood mage is. Sustain is great and all but when you take away her mobility + regen there is nothing you can do.

So my point still stands, blood mage apparently MIGHT be undertuned and could be in need of a buff, that doesn't mean ultimatum needs a nerf.

Also I am at 1hp due to ci and my mana pool protects me, how is paying 399mana different than paying 400 life?

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Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index#1288 wrote:

So my point still stands, blood mage apparently MIGHT be undertuned and could be in need of a buff, that doesn't mean ultimatum needs a nerf.

Also I am at 1hp due to ci and my mana pool protects me, how is paying 399mana different than paying 400 life?

So you die in 1 shot right? You have like what 5k es? This is as disingenouos as it gets.

I said earler Mom/EB/CI

so I run I have 0 Energy shield, since its converted to mana and have 1hp, my mana acts as life for me basically.

at that time I had roughly 2.8k mana

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Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index#1288 wrote:

I said earler Mom/EB/CI

so I run I have 0 Energy shield, since its converted to mana and have 1hp, my mana acts as life for me basically.

at that time I had roughly 2.8k mana

Yea cool, just let me reroll to one of 10 builds that dont get bricked by modifiers. Having RNG downsides is just bad mechanic to have, no matter how you want to twist it.

I agree that the trails are very frustrating and painful right now.
I have always hated mutators. They always feel unfair.

Here I am carefully balancing and crafting my build idea.
And the trail goes "here, move 25% slower, enemys deal 30% more dmg and you deal 40% less"

Mutators are unfair.

And when you get a boon its like "if you manage to get to a boss room, have 200 honor. dont mind him dealing 400 honor dmg per hit..."

Mutators are unfair.
It makes you feel weak. And then it will kick you even more.

This kind of applies to both trails, actually.

I dont want to pick pest or cholera. Its not fun.

Mutators are unfair.

Why not make it fun? I liked the WoW Torghast thing, where you get mad Buffs and sometimes completely stupid combinations.

Atleast balance out the Afflictions vs Boons. Boons are utterly useless and afflictions waaaaay too overtuned. Nothing should ever give me a 40% dmg malus.

Mutators are unfair.

I never liked mutators... they are unfair and not fun.

there is a 40% movespeed boon/50%more dmg boon

and you can buy boons from a merchant, you do not get so little boons. I still would reccommend ultimatum, but thats because I just hate sanctum

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Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index#1288 wrote:

there is a 40% movespeed boon/50%more dmg boon

and you can buy boons from a merchant, you do not get so little boons. I still would reccommend ultimatum, but thats because I just hate sanctum

Yeah sure, i can put 50 hours in this trash and still die about rng.

I would rather uninstall the game then do 3rd and 4th asc.

I'm all for the difficulty, I have finished the 3rd ascendency with 4k honour left (I know Infernalist OP! please don't nerf!) but still, I think this trial need some fixing!

High difficulty is good, but wasting time isn't!
This trial should at the very least add a check point!

This can be added each time you reach the treasure room (after killing the end boss), it will save your actual amount of honour, your boons and afflictions. If you die after that you can retry from this point!
Doing so, this will add a little more strategy to the run, when reaching a check point you know if you are in a good run or if you better restart! this will also prevent you from losing a good run to a random error (lag spike or something) that may make you lose a lot of honour!

Now some hints that may make the trial easier:
- never take the fog affliction (unknown rooms, unknown affliction) I succeded in my 2nd attempt, the first one was horrible! I thought I had to do one trial only (not 3 in a row!) so I didn't care for the afflictions and ended up with the worst possible ones and died in the 3rd trial!
- chose to avoid affliction first (or take a lesser one!) then chose the room when planning your path!
- stack +maxHonour% and honour resistance relics. Seeing one more room ahead can be interesting too! Don't forget that relics, like any other object in POE can be crafted! Collect all the relics from the failed attempts!

And yes this trial is hard! It force you to go back to leveling/farming with the frustration "but I want my ascendancy points now! :("
But once done, like any hard thing, the victory is a lot more satisfying!

Good luck and have fun all !

I think it's great they're developing things outside the standard dungeon, but the trials are not fun and required to access important parts of the game.

It is frustrating wasting hours on them and demoralizing to lose to RNG or one mistake after investing so much time.

I don't want to do another one at all, especially on alts. Get them out of the game.

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MelGibsonFan#2366 wrote:

I think it's great they're developing things outside the standard dungeon, but the trials are not fun and required to access important parts of the game.

It is frustrating wasting hours on them and demoralizing to lose to RNG or one mistake after investing so much time.

I don't want to do another one at all, especially on alts. Get them out of the game.

just buy a carry