Balance (Energy shield Too strong!)

"

iMirageX#4580 wrote:

All those reason you pointed out cost skill points to resolve CI issue. "Its super easy to hit cap with very little investment" eh? Did you even play ES or CI? Block node not far from the witch starting area? Are you like okay? I mean if you are accustomed in making your build pathing the way you describe it, more power to you and I hope you find success.

The flaw in your argument is it doesn't matter how many points it takes to solve those issues. The fact is that you can, while retaining both decent to OP damage (depending on build choice) AND an amount of ES that lets you facetank most things in the game. 15-20 skill points to fix stun and freeze thresholds is the cost to run CI, but that's just a cost you pay more than willingly when it enables the rest of the build to work the way it does.

I see a lot of people in this build retorting against the nerf of ES. Lets be clear here: no one wants ES to be "nerfed to the ground". It is, however, overperforming, based on the simple metric established by GGG as the devs that you should never be able to facetank a boss, which ES currently allows. People saying "just buff life so it's at the same level as ES" are completely ignoring the fact that such a move would just make life/armour/evasion busted by the same standards.

"

ClockworkShrew#7536 wrote:

"

iMirageX#4580 wrote:

All those reason you pointed out cost skill points to resolve CI issue. "Its super easy to hit cap with very little investment" eh? Did you even play ES or CI? Block node not far from the witch starting area? Are you like okay? I mean if you are accustomed in making your build pathing the way you describe it, more power to you and I hope you find success.

The flaw in your argument is it doesn't matter how many points it takes to solve those issues. The fact is that you can, while retaining both decent to OP damage (depending on build choice) AND an amount of ES that lets you facetank most things in the game. 15-20 skill points to fix stun and freeze thresholds is the cost to run CI, but that's just a cost you pay more than willingly when it enables the rest of the build to work the way it does.

I see a lot of people in this build retorting against the nerf of ES. Lets be clear here: no one wants ES to be "nerfed to the ground". It is, however, overperforming, based on the simple metric established by GGG as the devs that you should never be able to facetank a boss, which ES currently allows. People saying "just buff life so it's at the same level as ES" are completely ignoring the fact that such a move would just make life/armour/evasion busted by the same standards.

Actually if you play a CI caster, you'd realize that your argument is off. There is a "finite" amount of skill point so the more you invest to make ES into a decent defensive option will have consequences. These are stun threshold, freeze threshold, faster start of ES regen and ES regen rate. It takes 4 seconds for ES to kick in "if" you do not take any damage and it takes time for it to regen to full. FYI, I have 5.5k regen and it takes 4.5 second for my ES to regen from 0 to full and that is 4.5 seconds on top of the 4 seconds that default delay. That 4.5 seconds from 0 to full, I have already invested some points to ES regen and it still takes that long. Another note and another discussion is, do sorc/witch have other defensive layer near its starting area? Do you think ES alone can do anything?

From your argument alone, its obvious that you have not played CI builds. Hybrid is on a different topic and I am referring to CI ES alone. Actually, most people that I have discussed this on this forum have no clue about what they are saying since they haven't played CI. If ES was so OP then why do other people spec to pure mana and their reasoning is "I have to spent a lot of points for ES to feel good and those points can be spent elsewhere" scenario.

Not every build can run 10k ES. I don't use grim feast so I have a fixed 5.5k ES and not every one is using grim feast.

If you want proof that a lot of caster are going pure mana, check the price of Everlasting Gaze when the pure mana began to spread. Oh you can't do that anymore since you don't know anything about it and just go to the forums and say what you want right? Imagine tanking a boss mechanic with 5.5k ES.

Not every build can run 10k ES. I don't use grim feast so I have a fixed 5.5k ES and not every one is using grim feast.

P.S. ES Eva is already OP, you just don't know it yet.