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THis points for me they are experimenting with multiple drop tables for certain groups of players... I am in mid act 2. Found 17 of them...
And based on your first post in this thread, you still have NO(!) empathy/understanding that other people can have a totally different experience than you? May I ask what you are playing?
Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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Posted byPhrazz#3529on Dec 8, 2024, 10:29:32 AM
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Based upon the players's reactions of the old title, this is clearly a different game than the first one. For me and for many many others (look at Steam reviews), that are real hobbyists this is a good thing.
For many old players and for people that want to relax at the game there are many different games that you can relax at. I know you are mad. But why? GGG clearly said over and over again, that this game will be challenging. Not just in the end game, but right from the start. Deal with it.
And, please, those of you who try to play the ignorant and utterly stupid card of "hardcore gamers are virgins and loosers". Don't do it. You are only embarrasing yourselves. Thank you.
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Posted bykubizek#9034on Dec 8, 2024, 10:33:03 AM
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For the type of game YOU want there is POE1. We, the rest of the peopel that tried POE1 and got bored and left are waiting decades for a game like POE2. Stop trying to steal OUR game.. you already have yours.
This is game for the few, for the top players, the streamers, the masses wont play it. They can make this game but once the hype week dies down and the reality sets in most will move on.
Alienating the players who supported them for decade migtht also not be a good thing.
Absurd statement.... Elden Ring still sees more concurrent players than POE1... so no there are not FEW people that like some challenge (and this game is not even close to a Souls game in that regard)
You need to think that the public that like to just click a cyclone and move the mouse on screen is ALREADY TAKEN by POE1. It makes no sense to make a second game for the SAME audience!
They split the games EXACTLY because they want to access a DIFFERENT player base.
Elden Ring Steam Charts...
24hour peak 41k players... if PoE 2 has 40k players it's a dead game for the genre of ARPGs...
PoE1 right now is 11 years old and 5 months ago it hit 280k players on steam...
So yeah, you my dear sir are uninformed and you're a fucking fanboi!!!
Grow up and learn to actually look into things before spitting out bullshit...
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Based upon the players's reactions of the old title, this is clearly a different game than the first one. For me and for many many others (look at Steam reviews), that are real hobbyists this is a good thing.
For many old players and for people that want to relax at the game there are many different games that you can relax at. I know you are mad. But why? GGG clearly said over and over again, that this game will be challenging. Not just in the end game, but right from the start. Deal with it.
And, please, those of you who try to play the ignorant and utterly stupid card of "hardcore gamers are virgins and loosers". Don't do it. You are only embarrasing yourselves. Thank you.
Again, if GGG listens to this, they are going to repeat what Don Mattrick did with the Xbox One, or what Square did with FF16, or what Disney did with Star Wars, and on and on.
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Posted byegervari#7076on Dec 8, 2024, 10:37:10 AM
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I’ve spent about 7 hours with Path of Exile 2, and while I was beyond excited to dive in, I’ve ultimately come away disappointed. The game is undeniably high quality—the graphics are stunning, the atmosphere is incredible, and the revamped systems like gear, sockets, skill trees, and gems are fantastic improvements over PoE1. However, for me, the actual gameplay loop is where it all falls apart.
First, let’s talk difficulty. Path of Exile 2 feels like it’s trying to be a Souls-like game, and that’s just not what I—or many others—play ARPGs for. Boss fights are punishing, requiring perfect dodge rolls and flawless mechanics to avoid being one-shot. Even when I managed to beat a tough boss, I didn’t feel any sense of accomplishment or satisfaction. Instead, I felt frustrated and hollow because that’s just not why I play these types of games. I’m here for exploration, character building, loot, and experimenting with mechanics—not being forced to “git gud” at dodging in the campaign.
Another issue is the pacing. The campaign feels slow and tedious, with spongy enemies that take too long to kill and huge gaps between meaningful progression. Combine that with underwhelming loot drops (scrolls and gold from a boss fight? Really?), and it just feels like a grind with very little reward. The need to dodge constantly as a fragile sorcerer only exacerbates this, especially when using a controller, where auto-aiming can fail if you’re too far from a target. It’s a frustrating, clunky experience.
What makes it worse is the contradiction between the game’s accessibility goals and its difficulty. GGG clearly worked hard to make systems like skill gems and sockets more approachable, which is great, but then they made the gameplay brutally difficult, even in Act 1. It’s a confusing design choice that feels like it’s pushing away new players while alienating casual fans of PoE1 who loved the flexibility and approachability of its campaign.
Ultimately, Path of Exile 2 feels like it’s trying to cater to the hardcore “no mistakes allowed” crowd while leaving behind those of us who play ARPGs to relax and experiment. If you love games like Dark Souls and thrive on high mechanical difficulty, you might love this. But if you’re like me and value planning, strategy, and loot over moment-to-moment gameplay, this might not be the game for you.
I’m stepping away for now. Maybe GGG will address the feedback they’re getting and rebalance the game before launch, but as it stands, Path of Exile 2 doesn’t respect the reasons I fell in love with ARPGs—and that’s a huge disappointment.
I think I literally feel exactly the same as you, and I feel bad for it because everyone is telling me to go back to PoE1 or learn to enjoy Souls-like games.
I love to feel powerful in an ARPG, that's the biggest feeling of satisfaction to me in games. I have played for 10 hours and I have only felt like a wet noodle. 10 hours in any other ARPG you at least have a feeling you're getting strong, fast, tanky, etc... I don't mind hard games, but I haven't felt any satisfaction so far, so I'm putting it down too. I play games to have fun, and slogging from bossfight to bossfight without getting anything rewarding is only giving me this feeling 'why am I playing this?'. I hated Act 1 and 2 in PoE1 for 11000 hours, but that was okay, it only took like 1-2 hours to slog through it everytime, and then I felt the ramp and everything is golden. But here, when does the slog end?
I'm happy for the people that enjoy masochist playstyles, because this is exactly the game for them.
And you know what 's really sad? The WASD gameplay is exactly what my shoulder needs, I love it, and now I can't even go back to PoE1 because it only has point to click ruin every muscle and nerve in my right arm and shoulder gameplay.
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Posted byleto2626#2588on Dec 8, 2024, 10:40:12 AM
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Based upon the players's reactions of the old title, this is clearly a different game than the first one. For me and for many many others (look at Steam reviews), that are real hobbyists this is a good thing.
For many old players and for people that want to relax at the game there are many different games that you can relax at. I know you are mad. But why? GGG clearly said over and over again, that this game will be challenging. Not just in the end game, but right from the start. Deal with it.
And, please, those of you who try to play the ignorant and utterly stupid card of "hardcore gamers are virgins and loosers". Don't do it. You are only embarrassing yourselves. Thank you.
Its a great message to send to all those people who supported GGG for a decade, thanks for you cash but we don't want or need you anymore.
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Posted byPatrickFf#1965on Dec 8, 2024, 10:40:57 AM
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Based upon the players's reactions of the old title, this is clearly a different game than the first one. For me and for many many others (look at Steam reviews), that are real hobbyists this is a good thing.
For many old players and for people that want to relax at the game there are many different games that you can relax at. I know you are mad. But why? GGG clearly said over and over again, that this game will be challenging. Not just in the end game, but right from the start. Deal with it.
And, please, those of you who try to play the ignorant and utterly stupid card of "hardcore gamers are virgins and loosers". Don't do it. You are only embarrasing yourselves. Thank you.
Someone that rages and screams over a video game while dying again and again until he beats it just because he's a masochist and plays out of frustration is BY DEFINITION a loser and he's mentally ill... and this is the demographic they're catering to... the mentally ill raging virgins... and no I'm not gonna apologize for this because they're catering to the Asmongolds and Darth Microtransactions of the world... the people that look like they're homeless, they have clear mental issues which are clear in their face and the way they talk and overall they are NOT healthy gamers...
The average normal everyday person that comes home from work and plays for fun for a couple of hours is actually the one that keeps games alive... not these mentally ill morons that want all games to be "skill check" games and "git gud" games...
Also the game DOESN'T FEEL LIKE AN ARPG AT ALL!!!
Period... the devs lied to us to scam us from our money... they said it's gonna be more challenging which was good... they never said we'd be dying 15 times to the Act 1 boss and the whole game would feel like an absolutely massive chore of "git gud or leave"
Yes, I'm not being cute and polite about it but modern gaming is dying because of all the "git gud" bullshit... and I've been gaming for 30 years and I love my hobby so they can all go fuck themselves and I fucking DEMAND a difficulty setting cause me and all the other normal people are way more important for the game's success than the fucking Asmongolds...
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Its a great message to send to all those people who supported GGG for a decade, thanks for you cash but we don't want or need you anymore.
This is luckily not up you, buddy. This will be up to how popular or unpopular this new style of PoE 2 will become. We will see.
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Posted bykubizek#9034on Dec 8, 2024, 11:03:00 AM
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Someone that rages and screams over a video game while dying again and again until he beats it just because he's a masochist and plays out of frustration is BY DEFINITION a loser and he's mentally ill... and this is the demographic they're catering to... the mentally ill raging virgins... and no I'm not gonna apologize for this because they're catering to the Asmongolds and Darth Microtransactions of the world... the people that look like they're homeless, they have clear mental issues which are clear in their face and the way they talk and overall they are NOT healthy gamers...
The average normal everyday person that comes home from work and plays for fun for a couple of hours is actually the one that keeps games alive... not these mentally ill morons that want all games to be "skill check" games and "git gud" games...
Also the game DOESN'T FEEL LIKE AN ARPG AT ALL!!!
Period... the devs lied to us to scam us from our money... they said it's gonna be more challenging which was good... they never said we'd be dying 15 times to the Act 1 boss and the whole game would feel like an absolutely massive chore of "git gud or leave"
Yes, I'm not being cute and polite about it but modern gaming is dying because of all the "git gud" bullshit... and I've been gaming for 30 years and I love my hobby so they can all go fuck themselves and I fucking DEMAND a difficulty setting cause me and all the other normal people are way more important for the game's success than the fucking Asmongolds...
I never scream while playing challenging games. The only one screaming here is you, my friend. If you want to embarass yourself, please, go on. Be my guest ;-)
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Posted bykubizek#9034on Dec 8, 2024, 11:06:02 AM
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There are more than 500.000 players on Steam playing PoE2 right now. I think we are good.
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Posted bykubizek#9034on Dec 8, 2024, 11:12:24 AM
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