Is this math correct on my 5L zombies?

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

Huh? Most good spectres have so much life that those Pots do... well, nothing.

Ok if you say so, but constantly spamming them I can solo low lv7x maps pretty easily with 4 spect's and 10 zombies, and only time I know 100% they will die is those fire golums that drop that dreadful molten on the ground.

But I guess they do nothing.

You dun really need minion life gem for zombie unless it is a Q20 minion life gem
my lv21 (with +2 helm) zombie without minion life has 15472. with minion life gem is 18903
It doesnt have a huge difference..
The problem with summoner build to me is with ranged mods and crazy map boss like piety...
Piety basically is definitely worst boss for summoner..
She will 1,2 hits KO all yours minions...
The only possible way I think is to take Necromentic aegis with a 50+resist shield + purity + the new minion resist gem with quality.. for summoners who wants to solo temple map

I just realized that Minion Damage increases ALL damage done by minions, including the fire from Added Fire Damage. I did not include that in my math.

So I put my minions back into a 4L, and have Minion Damage of course, and then I'm gonna choose 2 out of the following 3: Faster Attacks, More Physical Damage, Added Fire Damage. I use Elemental Weakness, so I'm thinking More Melee Physical + Added Fire Damage is the way to go. I really want Faster Attacks too though, but 38% faster attacking is literally 38% more damage. MPD not only beats it in % right off the bat, but stacks with AFD. I think it's worth the slow attacking.

It's hard to decide 5L for spectres or zombies. Right now I'm about to try Life on Hit AND Life Leech on my spectres, which I think might be awesome.

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Bipolartuna wrote:

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

Huh? Most good spectres have so much life that those Pots do... well, nothing.

Ok if you say so, but constantly spamming them I can solo low lv7x maps pretty easily with 4 spect's and 10 zombies, and only time I know 100% they will die is those fire golums that drop that dreadful molten on the ground.

But I guess they do nothing.

I solo most maps easily with 4 spectres and 8 zombies. The pots are really unnecessary in my experience. Seriously, try it - grab a good spectre, make it lose half health somehow, then use a pot. It doesn't do much.

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

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Bipolartuna wrote:

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

Huh? Most good spectres have so much life that those Pots do... well, nothing.

Ok if you say so, but constantly spamming them I can solo low lv7x maps pretty easily with 4 spect's and 10 zombies, and only time I know 100% they will die is those fire golums that drop that dreadful molten on the ground.

But I guess they do nothing.

I solo most maps easily with 4 spectres and 8 zombies. The pots are really unnecessary in my experience. Seriously, try it - grab a good spectre, make it lose half health somehow, then use a pot. It doesn't do much.

Yeah I do agree they don't do a whole lot if I press the pot key once, but I'm not doing that, i am constantly potting from 1 of my 3 minion flasks and I've no trouble on most maps up to lv72, never got 1 higher so I duno about 73+.

Keep in mind, when I say I have no trouble, I have 1300 life, 2k es, no ES regen speed up nodes, run 2 adverarious rings, midnight bargin and only map that really gave me trouble was lv72 mine with bandits & temp chain mod because there was so many fire arrow & chaos arrow guys.

My spectors never die ( I use flame sentinals from a3 ) except to the fire golums and I always put it down to my constant potting.



So to survive will such low life & ES and rarely loose my minions, it must work?

BTW, it takes the whole Sapping Flask over 3 8 second intervals to heal 1 sentinal from around 50% life to full health.

fk tanky with purity

i really liked the part i never lose a spectre.......*rolleyes*

even 6l you lose spectre even with vitality and life leech you will lose them so plz dont spread such bullshit 900hp wont help much when the target has 10k hp

i did a lightning thorns mob map and lost my army every room damm i bet those flasks would have helped me seriously

btw the guy with the elemental resitance gem that gem is sooooo bad on lvl 20 you get 21 resi all id rather have multistrike on them

fun thing is looks like you can fight lightning thorns with lightning thorns and nothing happens

my favorite spectre from now on blackguard mages :) they buff you and your minions with lightning thorns and increase the minion survivability alot

cant wait for detailed minion tooltips guessing how much dmg and how much resi my minions have is annoying

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PackersFTW wrote:

UPDATE: I realized a mistake I made (not going to correct it), which is that Minion Damage would increase ALL damage, including the fire damage from Added Fire Damage.

Yes but, it's far more complex then that. Also your original formula multiplied the added fire with everything. IDK, it's a big mess i can't fix for u since i don't know what nodes u took in passive tree.

damage conversion
% more
% increased

I made a thread awhile back asking a similar question to urs but for converted damage, the links should make it clearer to u. Example in the first link should cover everything you have to ask about the math you need to do.

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dbjeas wrote:

The problem with summoner build to me is with ranged mods and crazy map boss like piety...
Piety basically is definitely worst boss for summoner..
She will 1,2 hits KO all yours minions...
The only possible way I think is to take Necromentic aegis with a 50+resist shield + purity + the new minion resist gem with quality.. for summoners who wants to solo temple map

Minion instability and spam skeles on top of her

While your dual totems are raping her (it's Piety, she deserves it)