Does Conc. Effect work on Lightning Arrow?

Somebody told me that increased AOE passives worked... does conc effect work too?

They might not even be right so this could be a stupid question but I'm asking anyway ;)
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I have investigated, and discovered that the area part of lightning arrow does not get the stat added that marks it as area damage, allowing area damage modifiers to apply.
I have made a note to fix this. So currently, you can support it with concentrated effect, and it will reduce the area but not affect damage. When the change is made, it will apply it's damage modifier to the damage dealt to the additional targets in the area - not to the hit of the arrow on the initial target, as that's not area damage.

Edit: I discovered this is, at least for now, intended behaviour - lightning arrow isn't considered "area damage" because it doesn't hit all the things in an area - it chooses specific targets to hit. It will look less like an area effect when we have the tech to make lightning arc to the other targets from the initial target. Apologies for the confusion.
Last edited by Mark_GGG#0000 on Jun 18, 2012, 2:12:06 AM
Apparently poison arrows cloud has the same issue. Will it also be affected by conc effect in the future?
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Poison arrow has a different issue - it doesn't cause damage in the area, like lightning arrow or ice nova do, it puts debuffs on things in the area that cause things to take chaos damage over time.

Modifying damage you dealt to things you hit is very different to modifying degen/DoT effects, because they are fundamentally different.

That said, yes, ideally we'll be able to apply some damage modifiers to degen/DoT effects at a later date, but that's not a simple fix of giving it a stat at the right time like lightning arrow.
While we have a dev on the spot, I have another question to ask about lightning arrow:
when using pierce or mult proj., can you hit the same monster twice through a lightning bounce? I've heard different opinions on the matter and it's really hard to test because of lightning's variability in damage.
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Mark_GGG wrote:
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Xulfer wrote:
I've combined my Lesser Multiple Projectiles gem with my lightning arrow, causing 3 lightning arrows to be fired.

Now, my understanding of lightning arrow is that it hits and causes damage to nearby mobs. So, if the arrow splits into 3 and hits 3 mobs that are close enough for the AoE, I believe that each arrow should cause AoE damage to the nearby mobs.

I've tested this briefly and the damage does not appear to stack up like this. Please can anyone confirm if they experience the same and if so, is this intended?
Each arrow can hit something only once. Each explosion can hit something only once. An explosion can't hit the final target of it's arrow (the one it exploded on).
However, if two enemies are close enough together, and both are hit by arrows from the same lightning arrow shot, each can be caught in the explosion of the other, as well as taking the damage from the arrow that hit them.
Also, even with just one arrow it's possible to have it pierce through enemy A (arrow damages A), and this can cause an explosion hitting enemy B, behind him (explosion damages B). Then because the arrow pierced A, it will travel through and hit B (arrow damages B), causing an explosion that can hit A (explosion damages A).
In that case the one arrow hit each of them with an arrow hit and an explosion in total, but each arrow hit and each explosion only hit one at a time.
So it sounds like you are going to add some sort of chaining type graphic? so we can see better what is going on? I was hoping for something like that. each target it hits sends a direct line to each target that is close enough to be hit, might get messy haha.

I wish lightning strike was like that instead of balls going out. Hit the target in front of you, then anything close enough also gets discharged into and damaged. But oh well, variety is good. I still would rather have more meaningful abilities for physical damage based players.
Wait. Will the Inc. AOE affecting Lightning strike be removed?
Hey Mark,

How's the tech coming along to show lightning arrow zapping the additional targets?
I was saddened to learn concentrated effect doesn't apply to lightning arrow due to it being a zap rather than an aoe.
Last edited by fadeawayyx#5597 on Feb 19, 2013, 2:41:37 PM
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