GGG must address TFT

I think I interacted with TFT like ... 3 or 4 leagues ago ? I dont even remember. It seemed kind of a waste of time just for how I play at least.

I get if you want to bulk sell like sextants or fragments maybe?

Always something the devs can just add to the trade site.

Usually when you send tells to people for sextants or fragments you can ask them if they have multiple though. Always gonna have people with multiple.

That said having access to real time chat with channels dedicated to crafting do help. Asking how can I roll X with this item. Stuff like real time QnA between players I think is a huge success in the TFT channels.

Like nowhere is it written down that if you block mana and reroll with a veiled chaos orb you can almost guarantee this mod and such.

Stuff like that I am always on the look out for, as my playstyle is trying to accomplish as much as I can with as little as I can.

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Strickl3r wrote:
but who does 7/7 ubers anyway^^)

Whoops.
Mash the clean
Last edited by Mashgesture#2912 on Jan 24, 2024, 6:24:16 PM
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Xinglifehard wrote:


you're agreeing with someone who thinks this.

@ jsuslak313 wrote:there is NO third party software or community that is required to play and enjoy this game, and even excel at this game.

which is just a complete nonsense.



I have been playing this game since the alpha. For a full HALF of that time, I used no third party software besides that old trade website. But most of my "trading" was done on THIS very forum and in the chat in-game. I learned to make builds while playing the actual game, skills that have carried into today.

I RARELY use PoB (I do use it though). I use filterblade, sure but I also know how to make my own filter in the PoE-provided way.

Hey...if you don't want to think for yourself, that's fine. I will absolutely repeat: You DO NOT NEED ANY (any, any, ANY) 3rd party software to play this game at a high level. It's laziness and lack of thought that cause people to "rely" on software and say things like some of the previous comments made.

I'll say it a 3rd time: the game gives you EVERYTHING you can possibly need to stay engaged within the game the entire time and be successful, even be successful at a mirror-tier level. The trade site here is mandatory but that's about it.


There is a WORLD of difference between "mandatory" and "useful". I will not deny that PoB, Neversink, etc. have made some EXCELLENT products. But if you knew what you were doing, you don't need either. TFT fills a hole that......doesn't really even exist in the game. It's a FAKE problem people flock around because they are obsessed with operating at 100% efficiency and speed, 100% of the time. I am perfectly fine with 90%, and I probably have a LOT more fun with the game because of it.
Last edited by jsuslak313#7615 on Jan 24, 2024, 9:01:46 PM
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lolwut32 wrote:
imagine a world in which you don't need any third party tools to play the game comfortably and any functional those tools are providing now is implemented within the game itself by GGG
imagine


This is what I desire. It frustrates me that I need to access 3rd party tools just to enjoy the game? I am already fed up with watching more videos and dwelling on these tools than spent on the actual game. Its about time!
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jsuslak313 wrote:
You know how much that video, RMTers, and TFT affects my daily experience in PoE? You know how much its affected my experience for the entire existence of TFT and RMT-ing?

Absolutely not at all.

You know how much it affects you?

Absolutely not at all.

You know how much TIME was wasted going into that video, complaining about TFT, or otherwise talking about this "toxic private club"?

All of it.


What other people do with their money and what programs other people may choose to have and use has absolutely ZERO GAMEPLAY EFFECT on MY enjoyment and experience with the game. Because PoE is, at its bare essence, a SINGLE PLAYER GAME. You play for YOURSELF, not in competition or in race with anyone else for a limited supply of items, currency, or anything else you might be "missing out on" because of another player beating you to it unfairly (or fairly).

Does TFT and RMT have an effect on the trade market? I'm sure it does. But does it really matter, and does the average player even have a clue of how much or likely how LITTLE of an effect that is? ABSOLUTELY NOT. So its as if it doesn't exist. The market changes every single league. You play the game and interact accordingly.


WHO. CARES!!!!!!!!!! Just enjoy the game and play it. Or sit there and wallow in your inability to "compete" in a completely non-competitive single player environment, while listening to blowhards launch tirades about a non-existent threat to YOUR gameplay....


GGG could pay the top 5 steamers a million dollars a year to advertise the game and even give them free items to do so....and it STILL would have absolutely no effect on my game.


Then why do you care if someone complains about TFT? You've replied and repeated yourself several times on this tread. Why do you care so much?
https://wealthyexile.com/

Bulk trading done directly on the website.
Services i.e. bosses, 5 ways, etc., to be implemented at a later date.

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"I care naught for riches, little for friendship. The duel is all I need. I may be an exile, but I will carve a road back to Oriath, one foe, one victory at a time. Ill fortune may have banished me to Wraeclast, but I will live to hear them scream my name in the great arenas again"
TFT's effect on the market is negligible, and TFT is a necessary tool for endgame in trade league. It has to exist unless GGG steps up and renders it unnecessary by fixing the game
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auspexa wrote:
TFT's effect on the market is negligible, and TFT is a necessary tool for the endgame in the trade league. It has to exist unless GGG steps up and renders it unnecessary by fixing the game


If it was negligle then mirrors would be the cheapest they ever were in Divs due to the increase in supply from this league much like Mageblood and Headhunter. However, we can see that is the opposite of true. This means a lot of them are leaving the market via other means and those offloading those items through those means are willing to pay a lot of divs for them to be able to offload them.
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Moregaze wrote:
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auspexa wrote:
TFT's effect on the market is negligible, and TFT is a necessary tool for the endgame in the trade league. It has to exist unless GGG steps up and renders it unnecessary by fixing the game


If it was negligle then mirrors would be the cheapest they ever were in Divs due to the increase in supply from this league much like Mageblood and Headhunter. However, we can see that is the opposite of true. This means a lot of them are leaving the market via other means and those offloading those items through those means are willing to pay a lot of divs for them to be able to offload them.


my argument is still valid. mirror prices don't affect 99.9% of the players.
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Rabbitx0 wrote:
https://wealthyexile.com/

Bulk trading done directly on the website.
Services i.e. bosses, 5 ways, etc., to be implemented at a later date.

Join the revolution


Yep, I joined. Much better than TFT, you don't have to take screenshot and DM somebody on the discord. Works like POE stack (sextants) for anything. Development is undergoing currently and in the future update they plan to expand it with boss / carry services.
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Rabbitx0 wrote:
https://wealthyexile.com/

Bulk trading done directly on the website.
Services i.e. bosses, 5 ways, etc., to be implemented at a later date.

Join the revolution


looks great, count me in!

hope in future they add bulk tomes for sanctum nerds like me.

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