bring back old lab enchants

i've been gone for 2 months and all of the sudden a crucial part of the game is just gone - lab enchants.

i do like the new mechanic, its fresh and exciting and opens up alot of build options.
but why does it have to come on cost of another mechanic?
why couldn't you just keep the old fountain and put another one in there, with the decision left to the player which one he wants to use?

will lab enchants be back at some point?

no they should never come back terrible mechanic

for me its hard to understand why years long set in stone mechanics and currencies are deleted or changed, while introducing tons of new content at the same time is obviously possible.
as a player who is not consistently playing/in touch with the news and only plays a few weeks at a time before there is a break of up to 3 months these changes hit really hard.

my projects/builds i was working on got impossible to finish, since lab enchants are gone and i cannot buy legacy stuff due to the loss of value of a previous currency change.

drastic changes like this hit passionate players who cannot be online due to circumstances really painfully.

i do not care if my builds will be top notch, i do not care of balance changes, but i do care about the progress i have made.

you do not value the effort and time i've put into this game, so i'll rather play another game of the genre, next time i want to play it.
this leaves a sour taste

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feeluck wrote:

for me its hard to understand why years long set in stone mechanics and currencies are deleted or changed

because they're old & outdated, like e.g. prophecy

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feeluck wrote:

my projects/builds i was working on got impossible to finish, since lab enchants are gone and i cannot buy legacy stuff due to the loss of value of a previous currency change.

You're doing something wrong if your build is heavily in need for the enchantments in order to function cause even before the change it was nothing but something to min-max a build, something that you get to do with the new gems now instead.
So nothing has really changed at this point other than the fact that min-maxing a build is easier now with the new gems.

Just use new gem. Most enchants were moved there.

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Pashid wrote:

You're doing something wrong if your build is heavily in need for the enchantments

The 18% Reduced Mana Cost enabled some free-casting on Forbidden Rite builds so it was definitely nice. Can still do that in other ways though, but I generally speaking agree that OP could just do sth else instead.

@OP: the game will keep changing if we like it or not, and Standard will always be affected by it. But you can just buy a base with the enchant you need and start from there.. there's tons of this stuff in standard

There was a lab enchant for HOP to get one more sentinel and I am really sad that there's not way to get that increase anymore. The build works fine without but HOP isn't a popular skill and this just feels like the skill slipped into the cracks.

I get why they are not in the game anymore.
It took tens and tens of runs to get what you wanted.
But... I hope they come back in events. So we can have some in standard from time to time to rise new legacy builds to that last notch.
Some even, really needed those to work

GGG attempted to take almost all of the "used" helmet enchants and bake them into newly updated gem quality values and transfigured gems.

More accessible to everyone and far less unwieldy.

Remember that we do NOT have all the transfigured gems yet, only the first round. +1 sentinel and other "missing" helm enchants might be coming in the next round of transfigured gems. Others were just basically never used and removed.

Loss of glove/belt/boot enchants suck, but aren't really game-breaking for anyone except those who totally min-maxed standard builds to rely on things like that reduced mana cost enchant above. Maybe we will eventually get a new system for those too though.

All this is still NEW. New and unfinished.



On removals and changes after time away: its a live service game...its the nature of the beast and something you just have to accept as a possibility. The reason the game exists in this form is so that it CAN change when it wants to.