Last Epochs factions will probably put PoEs "friction trading" to shame

It's really not helping anyone discussing over a system that is neither released nor tested yet, otherwise boy do I have a bridge to sell to ya

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navigator4223 wrote:

I mean, I think this is even better when it's not like this, because this means that eventually one can get "the best of both worlds", so we have to see.

Yes you can have both - in theory.

However, the devs already said grinding maxlvl for a singular affiliation is going to take a lot of time. Grinding both is likely not doable for normies.


The only relevant question is:
How many (powerful) items will require very highlvl or maxlvl even in whichever affilition to be usable and how much time does this take?

If the devs wanted to, they could easily lock the majority of players out of the best items available because both grinds (highlvl affilition plus either currency or sheer dropluck) is simply out of reach.


Its impossible to answer those questions and stuff can always be shuffled around in both directions to make it easier or harder depending on what the devs want.
The idea that you could just "easily" obtain all the good stuff is at this point at the very least highly debatable.

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navigator4223 wrote:

When you decide not to use trade then you get, apparently, much, much better drops.

Hardly - you just get bonuses like 'Enemies have 35% chance of dropping double the amount of items' and such. No guarantee that the extra drops aren't complete garbage.

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RandallPOE wrote:

Hardly - you just get bonuses like 'Enemies have 35% chance of dropping double the amount of items' and such. No guarantee that the extra drops aren't complete garbage.

So it's a variation of what we have in PoE with some altar effects..

Actually now I looked into a bit more there are some quite cool things like 'T7 affixes are twice as common' or 'Items that would drop as rare have 25% chance to drop as Exalted' so that will directly improve drop quality.

Nothing earth shattering but it looks decent for a filler game.

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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RandallPOE wrote:

Hardly - you just get bonuses like 'Enemies have 35% chance of dropping double the amount of items' and such. No guarantee that the extra drops aren't complete garbage.

So it's a variation of what we have in PoE with some altar effects..

There are also bonuses that make an item drop exalted, crafting naterias dont be consumed, and hogher chance of items with elavated(i think this is te name )affixes , so, yeah , t does help guarantee better drops, would be like smart loot in poe, but the rares having more chsnce of getting only t1(if it was in poe) , and also one bonus as i said, it's one craf material havinf a chance of not being consumed, would be like, 30% chance of divine orb not being consumed on use, so it actually looks good, but as you said, its no released yet, and will have to see if it actually works

As much as 'owning things' is not an interesting part of this genre to me and so I don't really care about bonuses to item drops, it's nice to see a game doing something in-fiction to make trade not automatically optimal, rather than building outside-the-fiction features to help ensure that it is.

It's innovative for sure, but it's far too early to tell how well it will work. I think it's better to wait and see how it goes before trying to compete with it.

I must say I really do like the idea of being able to SSF without being locked into SSF though. I think there's a lot of cool possibilities there. At the very least I think PoE should have a currency auction house since it's the worst part of trading IMO and shouldn't impact the game negatively.

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navigator4223 wrote:

On a sidenote: I think SSF in PoE falls apart the very moment a divine orb drops. They are MUCH to rare to actually use for crafting while being much too valuable to let them rot in the inventory.

Divines are important for crafting in SSF.

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navigator4223 wrote:

This would equal to PoE handing out Divine Orbs in SSF like candy to make them actually useful.

They are. For some builds even a single Divine can be a big upgrade, like those using 'The Porcupine'.

OP is seriously wrong about drops in SSF....which makes the entire post kinda...wrong.

"On a sidenote: I think SSF in PoE falls apart the very moment a divine orb drops. They are MUCH to rare to actually use for crafting while being much too valuable to let them rot in the inventory."

Not even close to how it works....you would use the divine IMMEDIATELY in SSF (if you had an item for it). It holds absolutely NO value except to be used. That is the ENTIRE point of SSF lol.

People play SSF because there is NO hoarding: items simply exist to be used. Rarity of the item holds no real meaning, except in the RARE instance where you might want to wait to divine an item until you have more than 1 because if you get unlucky it might brick your build. But as a SSF player, you would never be in that situation in the first place.

You talk about SSF like someone who has never actually played anything other than trade. The mentality and gameplay is VERY different...just the mention of "valuable" shows lack of understanding.




***Btw: this thread should not be in the feedback forum. Basically from the 1st post it drifted straight into "discussion" rather than feedback. The only real "feedback" is the choice of title, which itself didn't really relate to the actual post.