Please do not change existing alternate gems in Standard

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

I think the goals were twofold:

1: The goal was to combine alt quality + lab enchantments into one unified system.

2: This was an opportunity to nerf things that the devs felt were too powerful and have it fly a bit under the radar with the surrounding excitement.

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It does suck that the "permanent" leagues beat the brunt of this however. I wish they'd have created a vendor recipe that allowed you to change the alt-quality gems into the news ones using exalted or blessed orbs.

The second I saw the "alt quality" gems I figured they'd get nerfed in some way, so I let them be. I am always leery of new things in the game.

That's sorta a sad statement actually.

a lot of us do understand the need to remove alt gems and we do understand that this allows us to get new and interesting stuff like trans gems.

in fact i m pretty hyped for the new transgems. they/them seem interesting.

what we are salty about is GGG actively TAKING AWAY from players.

farming 10-50 divines for one alt gem only to have it reverted to basic. wtf ggg.

This whole situation is so very GGG (and I'm talking the whole gem rework situation here).

The underlying concept is sound.

The execution is an absolute basket case though. It's half baked, causes far more problems than it solves and just feels rushed, poorly executed and unprofessional. It really didn't have to be this way and anyone with a modicum of sense could have come up with a better solution.

It is alienating a comparatively small part of the community, but it is destroying any remaining good will those people had.

Once again, GGG pursuing something because of sunk cost fallacy, or just sheer hubris. The whole thing should have been pulled and worked on properly for another 4 months till it was actually ready.

So many of the reworked gems are either utter trash, or get a massive "huh?" from players, and a handful seem good. So why was any of this even necessary? They could have just reworked a few good skills and supports and everyone would have been happy.

They continue to remind me of some of my art students. The hardest thing for some of them was to realise that "once it's good, leave it the fuck alone". Stop fiddling with it because you're only going to mess it up.

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Aldora_the_Summoner wrote:

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So many of the reworked gems are either utter trash, or get a massive "huh?" from players, and a handful seem good. So why was any of this even necessary? They could have just reworked a few good skills and supports and everyone would have been happy.
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I have been wondering that too. So far they've shown around 170 new transfigured gems, and deleted several times more gems if we count alt support gems too. Cannot understand why they had to flat delete all those gems instead of making most of them another transfigured version and hence convert existing gems without crude hammer measures alienating a number of players and showing everyone else that nothing in this game is reliable and you can lose whatever you have out of the blue.

the truth is a lot of the gem changes simply werent or rather arent rdy.

they are releasing them in parts because they "werent" rdy

i bet a lot of the rather underwhelming ones are last min "fixes" that are either very unlikely to be used anyway or "safe" options that probably wont break the game

im sure that there are still eonugh "broken" options that they and probably most players wont even think off,because the interactions are "forgotten" uniq items and the new bonus ascendancies that arent tested well enough

Don't worry, first 3 weeks of league are always reserved for fixing overtuned BS after free beta testers figure it all out for GGG :)

Weird that decision of such magnitude like revamping gems is being carried out at the last few days before major release, what were they doing last 4 months (minus 3 weeks :kapp:)?

In a game where collecting equipment is second most important activity after killing mobs, deleting said equipment without compensation should be considered last resort, not the first.

Yeah i mean economy is fucked up, but how is this suppose to be a good change, people will have to yet again change all of their builds, standard is getting killed more and more every league because of changes like this

ye, im genuinely upset at this too. i was working on on my collection in standard for quite a few leagues. this isnt just a middle finger, this is a 14 inch plastic cock

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ciel289 wrote:

the truth is a lot of the gem changes simply werent or rather arent rdy.

they are releasing them in parts because they "werent" rdy

i bet a lot of the rather underwhelming ones are last min "fixes" that are either very unlikely to be used anyway or "safe" options that probably wont break the game

im sure that there are still eonugh "broken" options that they and probably most players wont even think off,because the interactions are "forgotten" uniq items and the new bonus ascendancies that arent tested well enough

League has begun and now we know for certain gem changes weren't ready. Such kind of bugs and even crashes obvious on first cast mean they barely tested it. Which in turn hints that this whole gem revamp idea was last minute order. Which in turn hints that standard alt gems were wiped because they didn't have time at all.

Nice modus operandi.

Newer player here. Just breaking level 86 and I came into Divine Orbs by getting a lucky drop in lower level maps. I decided to invest into a bunch of alt gems for my character towards the end of Ancestor League, because I wanted to play in Standard awhile to learn the game more. I feel like I lost at the game entirely with this terrible choice. No compensation? I think we should be able to at least get the old alt gems in the new form? Not like I can sell these back for what I paid.

Maybe if I sit on my old alt gems and keep them warm, they will hatch into something good again.

Very sad. No new gems in Standard, yet. No money to buy new gems. I should have bought gem insurance.

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Jhiroth wrote:

If alternate quality gems are converted to standard quality gems in Standard, it will kill 90% of standard players builds, and has 0% impact on the league or normal economies.

Please reconsider this change.

There have always been changes that affect the entirety of the game. Standard does not mean timeless and untouchable by change. You are choosing to have forever builds, which means you'll need to put work in to maintain them. Forever.