The impact of server performance on player death rate

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neosphoros wrote:

As a player you should have no rights to excuse GGG for actions are which affecting players in such way.

The hell are you on about? I am explaining some very fundamental stuff to you, information freely offered and easily verified if you did some basic research. Everyone's entitled their opinion, but the worth of yours is frankly not worth much since you lack understanding of the subject matter

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neosphoros wrote:

... all of these complexity and computing is absolutely not needed on server side if client side can do it much faster (it is not a cloud gaming) morover if server is not fast enough (which is the fact due to the visible problems).
Putting it on the server's shoulders - creates problems such as those described above... and what for? It is not making life easy for players if it may generate higher death rate.

I am sure GGG is dying to hire you so you can tell them how to do their job

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I am sure GGG is dying to hire you so you can tell them how to do their job

No need to mock him. He just doesn't know how things work.

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Dxt44 wrote:

No need to mock him. He just doesn't know how things work.

A little sarcasm never hurt no man

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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neosphoros wrote:

As a player you should have no rights to excuse GGG for actions are which affecting players in such way.

The hell are you on about? I am explaining some very fundamental stuff to you, information freely offered and easily verified if you did some basic research. Everyone's entitled their opinion, but the worth of yours is frankly not worth much since you lack understanding of the subject matter

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neosphoros wrote:

... all of these complexity and computing is absolutely not needed on server side if client side can do it much faster (it is not a cloud gaming) morover if server is not fast enough (which is the fact due to the visible problems).
Putting it on the server's shoulders - creates problems such as those described above... and what for? It is not making life easy for players if it may generate higher death rate.

I am sure GGG is dying to hire you so you can tell them how to do their job

I mean that you simply acting like you are one of GGG employee which tryung to make good PR for bad GGG - actions which are going for players detrimend. Instead of trying to panalityze bad actions that making game less understandable for us - it seems that you trying to find good excuse for bad developer action... Worst (and funniest) thing that you are doing everything for free XD

If the game bugged - we as a players should point it out.
If there is something that is not working like it should - we should talk about it.

... but not glorify it and say it that GGG can do it - becouse if something is working bad for me it will also work bad for you.

What about client-server mechanizm - you completely disturb the logic. Multiplayer type of the game is making the client-server - role itself... that is it. No more sense is needed for that purpose. Which actions will be maked by server or client is custom. But if game performance is decreasing on single PC in case on server load - it telling that server making a calculations that are not retated with with standard logic.

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neosphoros wrote:

I mean that you simply acting like you are one of GGG employee which tryung to make good PR for bad GGG - actions which are going for players detrimend. Instead of trying to panalityze bad actions that making game less understandable for us - it seems that you trying to find good excuse for bad developer action... Worst (and funniest) thing that you are doing everything for free XD

If the game bugged - we as a players should point it out.
If there is something that is not working like it should - we should talk about it.

... but not glorify it and say it that GGG can do it - becouse if something is working bad for me it will also work bad for you.

What about client-server mechanizm - you completely disturb the logic. Multiplayer role of the game is making the client-server - role itself... that is it. No more logic is needed for that purpose. Which actions will be maked by server or client is custom.

There are things worth criticizing and there's stuff that's hardly in GGG's power to fix if you are a reasonable person. This is one such case where the fault lies with the particular ISPs and not GGG, and so I pointed it out.

It was you who tried to gag me saying I shouldn't be allowed to "defend GGG" when all I did was explain to you how things actually work, because you are ignorant to the context in which you voice your criticisms.

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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neosphoros wrote:

I mean that you simply acting like you are one of GGG employee which tryung to make good PR for bad GGG - actions which are going for players detrimend. Instead of trying to panalityze bad actions that making game less understandable for us - it seems that you trying to find good excuse for bad developer action... Worst (and funniest) thing that you are doing everything for free XD

If the game bugged - we as a players should point it out.
If there is something that is not working like it should - we should talk about it.

... but not glorify it and say it that GGG can do it - becouse if something is working bad for me it will also work bad for you.

What about client-server mechanizm - you completely disturb the logic. Multiplayer role of the game is making the client-server - role itself... that is it. No more logic is needed for that purpose. Which actions will be maked by server or client is custom.

There are things worth criticizing and there's stuff that's hardly in GGG's power to fix if you are a reasonable person. This is one such case where the fault lies with the particular ISPs and not GGG, and so I pointed it out.

It was you who tried to gag me saying I shouldn't be allowed to "defend GGG" when all I did was explain to you how things actually work, because you are ignorant to the context in which you voice your criticisms.

"hardly in GGG's power to fix"... how you even may know it? All of those justifications are shocking. Are you sure that nobody pay you for this PR?

It is not about what you are allowed to (you can do everything, even sh&*t on yourself if you like) but it is about what you should do as a players community member.
If you are acting on your (and other players) advantage you may expect that something will be changed for you.

... but if you are acting for your own disadvantage and advantage of those who making problems for you - do not exect that something will be better for you.

And this is not about specific ISP if the problem is only with POE and is appearing with different regions.

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neosphoros wrote:

"hardly in GGG's power to fix"... how you even may know it? All of those justifications are shocking. Are you sure that nobody pay you for this PR?

It is not about what you are allowed to (you can do everything, even sh&*t on yourself if you like) but it is about what you should do as a players community member.
If you are acting on your (and other players) advantage you may expect that something will be changed for you.

... but if you are acting for your own disadvantage and advantage of those who making problems for you - do not exect that something will be better for you.

And this is not about specific ISP if the problem is only with POE and is appearing with different regions.

I am not a fan of this "us versus them" mentality you seem to be a fan of. What are you even trying to achieve here? You complain about a topic you have little understanding of, then when people (not only me) give you information that should help you see reason you act adverserial and attack me personally, and with what goal?

Do you think some GGG staff member sees this thread and goes "oh man, we gotta change our entire client-server architecture now"? Not happening. Changing this type of fundamental aspect of a game post release is such a great undertaking that you shouldn't waste any more energy on this, and for your own sake stop attacking people for disagreeing with you.

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A little sarcasm never hurt no man

I take back what I said. This guy is terrible.

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Dxt44 wrote:

I take back what I said. This guy is terrible.

Very honorable! I even warned him about the personal attacks. Doesn't fly by the forum staff (thankfully)

Gaming performance has been far worse than it had been during crucible, so I can't blame a guy for getting angry, but acting out that anger by insulting people needlessly is stupid many times I have been fed up with the game crashing at random, and still, there is no fix Vulkan is the best by far, but it doesn't not crash [Removed by Support], I don't think that is deniable at this point before they start randomly releasing new games, or new leagues like this league they should look into problems more deeply so that with a good gaming PC the game is playable which I don't consider it to be atm.