Lab enchantments be tradeable.

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lBlankSpace wrote:

Seems like i make a suggestion because of which you will lose your job, my dear lab runner.
So from your words, you should go kill by yourself countless times bosses to get eldritch currency. You should go and get a fructuring orb by your self to craft some equipment. And so on and so on.

you can go on trade and buy your enchant, if you dont want to get things yourself

I'd like to trade lab enchants as well, so that I don't have to have a helm beforehand in lab.
If I have a crafted/non-easily tradeable helm, it's much harder to get the enchant on it.
I also don't want to trust someone else (TFT lab runner) with my helm, regardless of said helm value.

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Nomancs wrote:

We already have too many ways to get enchanted helmets, like legion, cards, beyond, blight, plenty of others.

I do not agree, as there are simply too many possible enchants.
You need quite some RNG alignment:
- right base
- right enchant
- pray for good rolls or have to craft..and not everyone crafts
- from my knowledge, unique helms don't come from enchant incubators at least

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Zrevnur wrote:

The interface kind of exists already also. Recombinators. They could just make a copy enchant from A to B and delete A recombinator.

we already had something like that, it was enchant fossil - wasn't popular.

The enchant fossil was a way to skip lab and gamble an enchant? In that case, of course it wasn't popular, because there are SO MANY enchants and good luck getting yours.

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Kethril wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

We already have too many ways to get enchanted helmets, like legion, cards, beyond, blight, plenty of others.

I do not agree, as there are simply too many possible enchants.
You need quite some RNG alignment:
- right base
- right enchant
- pray for good rolls or have to craft..and not everyone crafts
- from my knowledge, unique helms don't come from enchant incubators at least

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Nomancs wrote:

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Zrevnur wrote:

The interface kind of exists already also. Recombinators. They could just make a copy enchant from A to B and delete A recombinator.

we already had something like that, it was enchant fossil - wasn't popular.

The enchant fossil was a way to skip lab and gamble an enchant? In that case, of course it wasn't popular, because there are SO MANY enchants and good luck getting yours.

Then don't? Fossils was a way for GGG to give free enchants with downsides, thats how they do it (increase risk/nerf if things will be easier to get - and thats a smart move). I'm all against instant gratification and moving towards item editor, getting enchanted helmet is easy. Getting bis enchant on bis helmet - that should require some work to have value.

Either buy enchanted helmet and roll it yourself, or buy carry, or run lab yourself - or don't get enchant. You already get 8 attempts with 3 choices.

Anyway you goes to a step TO BUY enchant from LAB RUNNER 99% ppl with BiS helmets do that, so why we cant avoid the moment of giving your helmet to him but simple buy an item from the same guy. It also opens a market for other ppl who love some labrun

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lBlankSpace wrote:

Anyway you goes to a step TO BUY enchant from LAB RUNNER 99% ppl with BiS helmets do that, so why we cant avoid the moment of giving your helmet to him but simple buy an item from the same guy. It also opens a market for other ppl who love some labrun
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Taunting me with insults aint gonna work. And any player can profit on running lab - I don't know if you're not aware of it or intentionally ignore it - but anyone can grab decent bases and popular uniques and run lab for profit, like aplhas howl for some auras enchants and so on.

I think you are acting this way because you was banned from tft (according to your other topic) so I will cut you some slack. But if you want enchants now and for free - it isn't gonna happen, so run lab or don't - your call.

I feel the more they take out of trade services and put into quick trade the better.

For myself, it actually doesn't have anything to do with trade. It's because TFT and similar services have been gradually impacting Challenges. The current Legion 200 Generals is a sick joke for a solo player.

I think to balance, maybe tie something only to the originally lab where a random enchant can be extracted to an item similar to an oil extractor. Not a full on powercreep because who knows what you will end up with, but at least you'll have something to work with.

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Slicer9875 wrote:

I think to balance, maybe tie something only to the originally lab where a random enchant can be extracted to an item similar to an oil extractor. Not a full on powercreep because who knows what you will end up with, but at least you'll have something to work with.

I think GGG would add extracted enchant at 30-50% of their non extracted value to balance it out, but power hungry people will not be happy - they need everything, now, without effort.

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Slicer9875 wrote:

I think to balance, maybe tie something only to the originally lab where a random enchant can be extracted to an item similar to an oil extractor. Not a full on powercreep because who knows what you will end up with, but at least you'll have something to work with.

This is pretty much what I do when I care about getting an enchant, which isn't often.

I'll try Lab every day till I get a quick layout then spam it all day if needed.
It's boring and sucks but sometimes you can get an Emp jewel and that helps.

I think they might need to calibrate some things though cuz specing into lab spam isn't horrible currency. I did it one league and got 5 Gifts + 2 Emp jewels before I got the chant I wanted.