POE is requiring player to be faster and more precise, its become not for OLD PEOPLE

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alhazred70 wrote:

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sham_pain wrote:

= Ruthless is designed by and made for old people. got'em

Seriously though, there are many builds that you can play without insane reaction times. I mean, the majority of players are doing that right now - RF builds.
I don't see any increase in reaction gameplay difficulty made lately, the only thing is that in TOTA you really have to be on your feet, because they balanced it quite poorly.

Well IMO, how you deal damage has basically nothing to do with what we're complaining about. Nothing about damage dealing in POE requires reflexive skills or pattern recognition or getting instantly off screened, or on screened instantly from things that are hidden in a soup of poorly scaled particle effects we aren't allowed to tone down "because the players will go full potato mode OSRS graphics trying to get ~2 extra FPS if we allow them to tone down the particles".

The reason they should put a particle and FX transparency slider in the game is because it would make unseeable stuff visible... which I feel is why most people who ask for it want it. The same people are always asking for a Death log, for the exact same reason. But sadly GGG does this cognitive dissonance dance where they straw man it into players just wanting potato mode so they can hand wave the feature away without nuance or further discussion.

I respect that you're mostly memeing when you mention ruthless, but interestingly Ruthless makes many of the problems worse. Monsters are still running around at light speed in a soup of visual junk. But the players are slower, less mobile and have poorer defenses and nerfed ascendancies. On the bright side though at least this mode removes approximately 2.5 dumpsters per screen of vendor trash so it does tone down some of the visual noise. I mostly play it because loot feels more like D2 and I can't stand what the base game has devolved into any longer.

I also hate the "POE2 will fix it" sentiment, I get thats its mostly ironic, but it looks like POE2 will MAKE IT WORSE.

Like; I for one am not sure I want to play a Souls-like game with mouse piloting and top down perspective that punishes my dad gamer reflexes even more than POE1 does and features "over 100" 5-10 minute boss fights filled with hard reflex progression gating. Thats over 100 opportunities for more Maven and Sirus script fights, made by the same designers who don't seem to know or care if those scripted hard gates really belong in an ARPG about building a character.

Also, to correct something in POE2 thats wrong with POE1 requires acknowledging and learning from mistakes. The basic problems are often not acknowledged or talked about by GGG so they can't fix those specific things.

You can't be an expert (which means someone who's learned lessons and changed their approach when needed) if you don't see the problems as problems.

This is EXACTLY why they can never fix melee... they don't view the mistakes they made as mistakes and can't learn from them. Despite many a successful game having good melee (the Diablo's for example, yes even 3 and 4 as poor as they ended up) And those games always end up with better melee because they do almost the opposite of what GGG designed in. They make it attack faster then ranged, they make it do better close in single target than any other playstyle, they give it better DOT's than ranged get (which allows movement with less down time on your DPS) and they give it the lowest opportunity cost for defenses and QoL. All of these are reversed in POE.

Ultima Online in 1997 did melee combat better than GGG, for precisely the above reasons. You can swing while moving, AOE's and Ranged are rooted in place longer, you can apply DOT's and Ranged and AOE spells had/have dramatically less single target and defenses. Fundamental design.