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To lazy to answer one by one sry, I've updated the post, hopeping you guys will understand what's wrong with the current system. If not well you must be from one of the RMT orientated parties ;)
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Posted byEmperor_home#1331on Aug 10, 2023, 6:12:59 PM
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SilentSymphony wrote:
Its a multiplayer game.
Make some friends and play together or join a guild that plays together, This can be done at any time if you so wish to.
SSF is an optional-challenge-mode added after the game was running for a long time, Its not supposed to be a viable alternative, its a personal-challenge.
Exploitive elements of group-play is for GGG to fix not to punish the player-base as a whole for the actions of a few.
If GGG can't made a solution to target action of a few, then yes.
They ruining lots of buids for regular players because few ppl abusing some mechanics.
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Posted byEmperor_home#1331on Aug 10, 2023, 6:14:51 PM
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I never play in parties so I don't know EXACTLY what the IIR/IIQ rates are.
But as long as the multipliers are under 6x, there is no abuse.
More players in the party should correspond to more loot, since they would be splitting that loot among the 6 of them. However, once the game offers a greater multiplier than the amount of players we might have a problem.
I'm pretty sure the bonuses are far less than 6x though.
just for reference
It's a bonus sure but its not nearly as much of one as people make it out to be sometimes.
The juicing methods and crazy end-game builds are what creates the stuff that sends people into rage when combined with those party play bonuses on top of actual player-skill and dedication to the farming method as a collective.
yes - also parties divide the loot they get by 7 (6 man party + hideout warrior trading all day). It's good but solo players who put that much time and effort in can come pretty close to that. Not sure which is better but I think they're close enough that it's not a big deal.
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Posted byinnervation#4093on Aug 10, 2023, 6:17:08 PM
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^yea just read that as I was typing. It's been a while since I looked at that.
Basically though...WAY less than 6x so I could care less.
Yea its funny people complain about the top tier group-play loot videos...there are solo player videos that are equally "infuriating", players gaining multiple mirrors in a week by themselves. That's what is known as "experience", those players are simply better at playing the market.
More than just experience actually. Dedication. As in 20+ hours straight playing from league start to go with that experience.
I personally feel fairly experienced in this game. But I draw the line at that kind of play session. I won't play more than a couple of hours before taking a break and won't play more than 6 hrs in 1 day (and only that long on league start). I am happy that people who are willing to play much more than that are rewarded with more and better loot.
(General statement, not directed at anyone in particular):
It disgusts me when people want the spoils that others receive without putting in the same time and dedication as said others. Sadly I see this not just in this game, but more or less in all facets of life.
What are you talking about? Did you read the topic at all? You want players to be rewarded for cheating? Rewarded with RMT profit?
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Posted byEmperor_home#1331on Aug 10, 2023, 6:38:37 PM
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Emperor_home wrote:
To lazy to answer one by one sry, I've updated the post, hopeping you guys will understand what's wrong with the current system. If not well you must be from one of the RMT orientated parties ;)
And your true motivations come out...faulty math, playing the blame game, and capping it with a nonsense analogy, nice.
"If you don't agree with me you must be RMT!" is the oldest and laziest form of argument on this forum.
Calling this a Single Player Game because there lacks multiplayer gameplay is...just plain wrong. Multiplayer has existed for the entirety that Single Player has existed in this game. It just so happens the same content you do as SP is ALSO MP content. From its very beginning, the game was SP and MP. Whether you "like" playing SP or MP is irrelevant: it is simply FACT that SP and MP exist in this game.
Whether the game does MP well or not...that is an entirely separate argument and not pertinent to your initial point.
Well....since the OP ONLY wants agreement or you get the dastardly label of "rmt-er", I am done with this thread and this author.
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Posted byjsuslak313#7615on Aug 10, 2023, 6:43:34 PMOn Probation
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Emperor_home wrote:
To lazy to answer one by one sry, I've updated the post, hopeping you guys will understand what's wrong with the current system. If not well you must be from one of the RMT orientated parties ;)
And your true motivations come out...faulty math, playing the blame game, and capping it with a nonsense analogy, nice.
"If you don't agree with me you must be RMT!" is the oldest and laziest form of argument on this forum.
Calling this a Single Player Game because there lacks multiplayer gameplay is...just plain wrong. Multiplayer has existed for the entirety that Single Player has existed in this game. It just so happens the same content you do as SP is ALSO MP content. From its very beginning, the game was SP and MP. Whether you "like" playing SP or MP is irrelevant: it is simply FACT that SP and MP exist in this game.
Whether the game does MP well or not...that is an entirely separate argument and not pertinent to your initial point.
Well....since the OP ONLY wants agreement or you get the dastardly label of "rmt-er", I am done with this thread and this author.
Look m8. I got arguments, I got logic behind the arguments. You have only "That's WROOOONG". Go on disproof, make some logical arguments if you can: "Why current party abuse system should be in the game?" Don't waste time on general blablabla.
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Posted byEmperor_home#1331on Aug 10, 2023, 7:29:50 PM
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This thread:
"Please nerf everyone better at the game than me."
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
This thread:
"Please nerf everyone better at the game than me."
Why everybody who is writing stupid replies got hidden accounts?
You reply is: "I don't know what is logic and how to connect the dots, so I'm writing a random aggressive replies couse I like to bully other ppl"
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Posted byEmperor_home#1331on Aug 11, 2023, 4:52:55 AM
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
This thread:
"Please nerf everyone better at the game than me."
Why everybody who is writing stupid replies got hidden accounts?
You reply is: "I don't know what is logic and how to connect the dots, so I'm writing a random aggressive replies couse I like to bully other ppl"
People have strong opinions here, Unfortunately not all of them are conscious of or care that there is a living, thinking and feeling person on the other end.
ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate from my experience is definitely not one of those posters, They are as far as i can remember have constructively posted here for many years, I'd take their comment there as constructive feedback or laugh it off.
Honestly there's been a lot of these kinds of posts and while I might seem friendly atm i was not so friendly on these topics a couple months back xD There's a lot of complex reasons party play shouldn't be
Innocence forgives you Last edited by SilentSymphony#3358 on Aug 11, 2023, 11:31:33 AM
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D2 had a solution: /players 8
But GGG devs are too busy nerfing exp totams in standard.
Oh, and Ruthless, balance changes will attract 2 more people to this mode, important stuff.
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