What the hell is wrong with the armour now?

Dexterity armour bases have good suffix which gives chance to Suppress Spell Damage.
Thats a lot, in addition to the fact that spell suppression is now too strong that it is not even taken through evasion rating builds, which cannot be said about the block and evasion, this is not popular and strong now.

Why not add the chance to block of attacks on the power bases of armor and the chance to block of spells on the intelligence of the base?
While the dexterity of the base is in a strong gap what do their op...

I would like to know if there were developer diaries where it was said why such a balance of protective items in the game, it doesn't look very good
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Armor bases get additional physical damage reduction (up to 8% which is the equivalent of having 2 endurance charges).

Pure ES bases are in a bit of crap spot now I agree.
Last edited by gladiatorpie#3317 on Jul 5, 2023, 2:26:18 PM
Where is info about this percentage physical damage reduction? i couldnt find it. And truly didnt feel it, cause it sound too strong
PoB will show you all the possible mods on any base type. Im sure there are other affix sources as well.

And yes it is very strong. Its why Trimphant Lamller (or however you spell it) is so popular because it can roll suppression AND additional physical damage reduction.

And for clarification its popular because its the highest tier armor/evasion base. Any armor/evasion base can roll the suppression + additional phys reduction combo.








Oops I clicked to many times. Im on my phone so im to lazy to clean it up. Granted this armor has legacy spell suppression but it still demonstrates the point.
Last edited by gladiatorpie#3317 on Jul 5, 2023, 3:30:35 PM
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gladiatorpie wrote:
PoB will show you all the possible mods on any base type. Im sure there are other affix sources as well.

And yes it is very strong. Its why Trimphant Lamller (or however you spell it) is so popular because it can roll suppression AND additional physical damage reduction.

And for clarification its popular because its the highest tier armor/evasion base. Any armor/evasion base can roll the suppression + additional phys reduction combo.








Oops I clicked to many times. Im on my phone so im to lazy to clean it up. Granted this armor has legacy spell suppression but it still demonstrates the point.

anyway its sucks in comparasion with spell suppression and physical damage to element conversion is much better
I am for the idea of ​​more opportunities for strength and intelligence builds in the plan, dexterity has spell suppression, other block attacks, other block spells
Last edited by Offfit#6199 on Jul 5, 2023, 4:04:22 PM
INT by the way has faster start of energy shield recovery
STR has % INCREASED life Recovery for not-bodyarmour-and-not-shields
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SuperMotte wrote:
INT by the way has faster start of energy shield recovery
STR has % INCREASED life Recovery for not-bodyarmour-and-not-shields

is it cool? BY THE way, all life recovery mods and ES mods just shit when less recovery mod working on map, but spell suppression doesnt go down all that way
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Offfit wrote:

anyway its sucks in comparasion with spell suppression and physical damage to element conversion is much better


Partially disagree with this. The flat physical damage reduction is way more powerful than the conversion mods...flat 8% phys reduction is 8% phys reduction. But an 8% conversion is 8% x .75 or whatever max resist you have, already WEAKER than the flat phys reduction. Additionally, as I understand it, the phys reduction happens first in the equation meaning it takes care of the largest hit allowing for better 1hko protection.

Not only that, but you can get BOTH together. I agree that spell suppression is stronger than all of them, because its easier to get. But if you had a proper build that stacked phys reduction (endurance + armour mod + pantheon) you could get a similar spell suppression-like effect on ALL physical damage (huge for bosses), before you then get into conversion shenanigans too.

My main issue with flat %phys reduction is that it pretty much invalidates armour. If only armour worked in a similar way, with flat physical reduction instead of the rolloff effect it has now where it does nothing for larger hits.


I also disagree with the premise that the map mod punishment for spell suppression is somehow "better" than other mods. The top tier mod is -20% to the amount of DAMAGE prevented, meaning that mod alone for a spell suppression mod means 20% MORE damage taken by spells. That is HUGE. Sure, its not a build-disabling mod but its one of the most punishing damage mods you can possibly roll on a map.
Last edited by jsuslak313#7615 on Jul 5, 2023, 5:48:56 PM
Also, block and evasion are avoidance whereas reduction and spell suppression are mitigation stats. You can't compare the two.
Just comparing rare armor affixes like that is kinda stupid to be honest, you have to look at build options as a whole.

Pure armor builds can go Loreweave + Transcendence with phys conversion for massive defense or Brass Dome + Unbreakable or Divine Flesh + 4th Vow. If your energy shield is high enough you can also add eldritch battery (from devouring diadem for example) to the mix to get a free 50% aura via blessing while having defenses that are much more powerful and efficient than anything you can accomplish with rare armor pieces that have SS on it.

ES + armor have CI + Aegis Aurora with max spell/attack block which is an amazing defense setup in it's own right though ES is kinda lacking in good options aside from that unless you play Trickster. Evasion + Ghost dance is nice to somewhat allevate glass cannon status but not by much.

There is also the tree position to consider. If you go right side for SS that means no life regen, no block nodes, no armor, no max res. If you want any of that you have to try and manage with gear alone which is difficult for most of those stats.

I do rate SS highly on dedicated bossing builds especially ubers but outside of that it's honestly not that great an option.
Last edited by Baharoth15#0429 on Jul 6, 2023, 2:42:47 AM

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