Are all i85 Bosses spell only?

I've never really built for Spell Suppression but I really want to kill one of the i85 bosses. They deal way too much damage. I've beat Maven several times and even The Fear once.


It seems all i85 bosses only deal Spell damage? I don't recall any of them using a "weapon".

Does this mean to beat a i85 boss, you need max Suppression? ugh.. it's annoying.

They do have attacks but due to evasion they tend to use spells for their real skills so that the player has to respond accordingly. Some bosses are better than others for this but some really are all spells so yeah you kinda need max suppression or a good amount of + maxres if you want to boss comfortably.

Note that most of them also use "attacks" (that do not count as spells) that are unavoidable and impossible to block. Maven has a slam, plus her memory game, Elder and Shaper too, and Exarch's "Incinerate" counts as an attack iirc.

So while spell suppression is a good call, it won't be your everything.

Also, depending on your build, you can absolutely tank most Uber bosses without spell suppression.

Aside from attacks most of them can use, they also have dot mechanics like Shapers beam which ignore spell suppression as well. So yeah, SS is at it's best against pinnacle/uber bosses since they are spell heavy but it's not going to do much by itself.

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PoitelMarto wrote:

Note that most of them also use "attacks" (that do not count as spells) that are unavoidable and impossible to block. Maven has a slam, plus her memory game, Elder and Shaper too, and Exarch's "Incinerate" counts as an attack iirc.

So while spell suppression is a good call, it won't be your everything.

Also, depending on your build, you can absolutely tank most Uber bosses without spell suppression.

How do I tank without spell suppression? I don't really need to "tank" them. I just want to beat them! I understand certain mechanism like "memory game" is designed to "dodge" them. I get it.

I tried i85 Eater of the World. Every time he does the new Die Beam (3 angles), I touch, I die. I've tried i85 Searing as well and again, he touches me I die. My build can handle Maven and Sirius but i85 is just doing too much damage.


Another thing I prefer Life build. I've been playing this game for over 5 years and I never like Energy shield focused build.


Can you tank some hits with Life build? Can you take at least one hit with 2h Staff ?

Also, my Elemental Hit Sabo does 15% damage reduction from blind and 10-20% Sap and yet those bosses still one shot me. I have about 11000 armor and 76% resist.

Does Damage reduction debuff work on those bosses?

Yes, damage debuffs like the one from your Sabo work but using that along with 11k armor and 76 ele resists is like trying to block a cannon round from a tank with a piece of paper it's not nearly enough.

Those guys aren't called uber bosses for nothing, they are the most OP shit in the game aside from late simu waves and players. If you want to survive anything they do you'll need high max with damage taken as other elements mechanics to negate penetration and if possible additional layers like unbreakable, transcendence, spell suppression or what ever. 76 res would get you one shot even if you had capped spell suppression on top.

Worth noting that Uber Eater is completely bonkers in terms of raw damage output. That beam of his hits for 30k lightning damage and he shoots like 5 pulses so we are talking about 150k lightning damage if you get hit by all of them.

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chinesefoodverygood wrote:

Also, my Elemental Hit Sabo does 15% damage reduction from blind and 10-20% Sap and yet those bosses still one shot me. I have about 11000 armor and 76% resist.

Does Damage reduction debuff work on those bosses?

11k armour and 76 res barely does anything in red maps, let alone uber bosses. That level of "defense" is a joke. If you want to tank with armour and not damage conversion, you'll need 10-20x that much at least and WAY more than 76 res.

What are the ways of getting more +max resist? I really like Brass Dome for +5 max and no critical damage.


I won't have +2% from shield as I will be using 2h. That's bad eh?


I see there are notable Soul Steel, Prismatic Skin and Anointed Flesh. I am at the top of the chart so I can only anoint either Prismatic Skin or Soul Steel.


What are other sources of max elemental resist?

Resistance cluster jewels can roll notables with max res, eldritch influence implicits on helm, gloves and boots can have fire, cold and lightning max res as well iirc, there is melding of the flesh that allows you to max out one max resist and make it apply to all the others. Purity of fire/ice/lightning also provide their respective max res, with 40% increased aura effect you can get +7 from those to a single resist, good with melding the flesh.

Keep in mind that Ubers have penetration though, just going max res without any conversions won't do much when Shaper balls for example have 40% penetration. This means that your 90% max res get treated as being 50% res.