Less duration interaction with Holy relic

The data mined tags on holy relic's spell says that it isn't a druation ability yet it is affected by the support gem Less Duration. When triggered the healing effect's duration is reduced to 3~ seconds does this mean the damage portion of the spell is also affected?
Last bumped on May 31, 2023, 7:02:53 PM
The dmg from holy relic is done on the hit and doesn't have dmg over time to it unless you make them poison.
So it shouldn't affect the dmg at all.
So unless the hit does some amount of DOT, Less duration wont affect the hit damage ? Kinda wierd since its a generic damage support.
Well it most likely isn't affected by it.
Relic and the actual spell that Relic casts has no duration component, so Less Duration's damage mod doesn't normally do anything for it. But if you link your Relic to Arcane Surge/Lifetap, it gains a duration component and the Less Duration damage mod will apply (just like with RF).
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Just clarifying, when you say component you mean the spell tag right?
Because it does have a duration component since it grants a temporary buff(like arcane surge would)
"Holy Relic's nova skill grants # life regenerated per second to minions"
It's only the regen buff that the Relic's spell grants which has a duration. The spell itself doesn't. If you just link Less Duration, it will only affect the duration of the buff. It needs some help to apply its damage mod to the spell damage.

Arcane Surge/Lifetap add a "hidden" duration component to pretty much any linked skill that doesn't otherwise have a built-in duration. This is how you're able to use things like Less Duration or Swift Affliction with Righteous Fire or Death's Oath armor. The same method that works for those works for Holy Relic.

The tags of any skills involved are unchanged by this. You're just adding a new effect to the skill, which other things can then interact with, rather than changing its tags.
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Holy Nova provides this regeneration, this is one skill. If the regeneration is affected (and it is), the damage is affected too.

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Healara wrote:
The data mined tags on holy relic's spell says that it isn't a druation ability yet it is affected by the support gem Less Duration. When triggered the healing effect's duration is reduced to 3~ seconds does this mean the damage portion of the spell is also affected?
Why did you decided to check datamined info at the first place? Less Duration supports Holy Relic just fine and thus provides its bonuses (including damage).
Was just double checking since it doesn't show up in POB so I was skeptical if it affected the damage portion or not. In game it shows that Holy Relic is affected by the supported gem but I wanted a wider consensus and counter opinions against it having an effect on the damage.

At this point I'm pretty sure that the damage is affected.
Make a new, empty PoB. Add Summon Holy Relic skill and nothing else. Check the damage. Add Less Duration and check the damage again (it won't change). Add Lifetap or Arcane Surge. Damage immediately goes up.

Start over. Do the exact same with another non-duration skill. Try Double Strike or something of that nature. Same result. Do it again in-game for good measure, since you can visually see changes on the game's actual tooltips. Same result.

If you're still convinced afterwards that it works fine with just Less Duration, well, ok then.

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