RESET THE LEAGUE !!

Leagues should reset after 45 days.

Hear me out.

The PoE leagues are stagnating very quickly.

After 45 days only about 20-30% of the day 1 player base are still playing
(source: https://poedb.tw/us/League#ConcurrentPlayers)

Of these 20-30% - how many are actually playing the game, versus just re-leveling a new character, or messing around doing gambles, or just sitting in hideout?

On top of that, most streamers have stopped playing PoE and are playing other games.

There is hardly any new worthy content being created for PoE on YouTube.

The reality is that - PoE league start is one of the most exciting times and beyond that players are getting bored very quickly.

One solution is to make the end-game more exciting (or constantly evolving) - which GGG has not been able to figure out.

The other solution is to simply make the leagues shorter. However GGG needs time for developing next league.


What I propose:

a) Keep league at 90 days, but reset halfway at 45 days to have a fresh launch

b) (edit) Add 1-2 new uniques and 1-2 new skill gems. These can be made in advance and withheld from 1st phase and only released in 2nd phased


This would improve:

a) Player retention: players get the excitement of a new start, players get to have a "second chance" at a new start and new economy against other players

b) More players = more revenue from MTX sales

One could argue that some players may not want to play 1st phase if they know league will reset to 2nd phase - the counter-argument to that is that the retention shows that 70-80% of players have already stopped playing at 45 days. Furthermore, people are already alright with this - since by playing temp leagues they are going to reset after 3 months to the next league.

let me get this right, you're proposing that after 45 days all our currency/items/chars etc would get wiped and we start all over? umm no, this is one of the worst ideas ever.

the problem is that leagues are just too long and people get bored. the last 2 leagues lasted 4 months instead of 3. crucible will probably be another 4 month league. but wiping all the stuff we grinded after 45 days is not the solution.

This will achieve nothing, people enjoy league start because there is new content being added to the game, new items, new skills, new builds, endgame changes, etc.

If GGG did just a ladder reset every 3 months with no new content, this game would've died out years ago. So what makes you think a mid league ladder reset is a good idea?

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

let me get this right, you're proposing that after 45 days all our currency/items/chars etc would get wiped and we start all over? umm no, this is one of the worst ideas ever.

the problem is that leagues are just too long and people get bored. the last 2 leagues lasted 4 months instead of 3. crucible will probably be another 4 month league. but wiping all the stuff we grinded after 45 days is not the solution.

And yet, we are being wiped after 90 days (or 120 days) anyway.

So why not reset after 45 days, which is when 70-80% of the base has stopped playing?

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stalkingjackal wrote:

This will achieve nothing, people enjoy league start because there is new content being added to the game, new items, new skills, new builds, endgame changes, etc.

If GGG did just a ladder reset every 3 months with no new content, this game would've died out years ago. So what makes you think a mid league ladder reset is a good idea?

Ok, so why not add 1-2 uniques for the reset and like 1 new gem. They can even be made in advance and then withheld from the 1st phase, and only released in 2nd phase.

Endgame changes? Endgame hasn't changed much at all for a long time.

My idea seems counter-intuitive, but it's a good idea if you can think along the lines of: "would resetting the league now add more players or reduce players" .


We are already at 20-30% players every league at 45 day mark. Would resetting increase players above 20-30%, or would it reduce players below 20-30%?

I believe it would increase players substantially - I think most players like the competition of a fresh start and building from scratch, which is why so many are already bored and have stopped playing after 1 month.

If they want people to play leagues longer they have to.

1. Make better league content.
2. Improve progression through maps to end-game.
3. Improve monotonous end-game loop.

My take every league for the past year has been. Meh league. Okay, play anyways. Well I cleared all normal content within a week cuz it hardly takes much gear. Look at what's left Challenges / Maps per hour into same old boring mechanic driven bosses. Say, nah and stop playing.

I miss Zana showing up and all the little side treks you could get into in each map.

I just got my HH, with all the other items covering for it to have no res including chaos res of course and an open prefix for all the nice stuff to bench craft etc... Also crafting the perfect passive tree took some time, at least a week.

I would like to enjoy it a little longer tyvm. Just because 0.1% of the player base has everything after 4-7 days or semi cheating their way to lvl 100 by buying their exp, players who on average play 2-3 hours per day(more at league start obv) and don't want to take advantage of carries and services would also like to enjoy the league and the end-endgame.

So very short sighted suggestion, imo. Go play private leagues with your 5 way buddies.

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Ceryneian wrote:

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

let me get this right, you're proposing that after 45 days all our currency/items/chars etc would get wiped and we start all over? umm no, this is one of the worst ideas ever.

the problem is that leagues are just too long and people get bored. the last 2 leagues lasted 4 months instead of 3. crucible will probably be another 4 month league. but wiping all the stuff we grinded after 45 days is not the solution.

And yet, we are being wiped after 90 days (or 120 days) anyway.

So why not reset after 45 days, which is when 70-80% of the base has stopped playing?

yeah but after that 90 days we get new content. thats the reason to start over. if there was a reset now, i wouldnt start over, i would just go to standard. crucible is not worth starting over for, and im sure most people would feel the same way. they would just go to standard. even if the league mechanic was good i doubt i would start over

How about you reset yourself by making a private league every whatever days you were suggesting?

Let other people do whatever they want.. for some people even 90 days isnt enough.

hahahahahhaha wow....what an idea.

The MOST fun I have in a league is after 45 days/2 months: when I have twink gear and can level super fast and create and experiment with many new builds. Don't take away my fun because no one else has any patience!