What's the strongest entity in Path Of Exile?

all those in the list can be defeated, The strongest enemy are by far the carts blocking your path, no exile has ever been able to even scratch them.
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This is a matter I've spent a significant amount of time podering, I'll snip out the quotes to add my thoughts to them in particular;

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T1 Major Cosmic Entities:
- The Tangle
- The Cleansing Fire
- The Decay
- Mavens Pregenetor

The Maven's Pregenetor is known as the Lightkeeper as per the Envoy. There is zero doubt the Lightkeeper is the highest of Tangle and the Fire without a doubt, both are described as its offspring. The Fire is doing what its doing because the Lightkeeper told it to understand things (and it took it in a way that leads it to obliterate everything, perhaps to prevent those known things from changing and outdating its information). It appears to be grooming a child or heir in some regards, but it's motives or morality are not clear.

It MAY be more powerful or contemporary with the Decay. The Decay could also be the Lightkeeper by another name, or a sort of inverse entity / shadow of it, but information about either entity is not particularly present yet.

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T2 Major Cosmic Entities - Child Edition:
- Maven (she is probably weaker than the ones above, considering that she is a child compared to the other eldritch beings... but she is the strongest being we actually meet ingame)

T3 Champions for Cosmic Entities:
- Searing Exarch
- Black Star
- Eater of Worlds
- Infinite Hunger
- Elder
- The Exile (our Player Character)
(All of them are champions for eldritch beings, and with that, I assume that all of them are stronger than everything below)


I do not think it fair to place the Exile equal to the Elder, Eater or Exarch. Yes, the Exile did kill those things (or perhaps more accurate to say, the Nomad). BUT all are under somewhat questionable situations. The Maven's presence during the Excarch and Eater may have vastly increased their power (or limited the others), and she obviously intervenes more clearly during both of those fights to level the playing fields. Meanwhile the Elder has been stuck to a stone for several thousand years, and just recently (by cosmic standards) had a big fight with the five Conqurers + Zana, and had it out with the Shaper. Also I'm not sure its 'dead' in the sense that it cannot manifest itself. The Elder seems much more a force than a creature, perhaps borrowing the body of a recent prey, and its effect on mortals seems interestingly similar, 'killing' them, and wrecking their memories, and perhaps their humanity, but in the process leaving them in a godlike state.

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T4 People who fought against Champion(s) and appearantly aquired some cosmic Powers(?):
- Shaper
- Sirus


The shaper was tutored by the Elder for some unknown time (as he was being groomed to lead it out, before he caught onto just what it was). He was also killed, like Sirus and Venarius, and in the process seem to have become powerful. To me this has always indicated (along with the nature of gods) that humanity is by nature, a limited factor. One cannot have that level of power, and still be human in the same way, trancending into concept more than multifacited person who can feel guilt or hope, or kindness.

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T5 Group who fought successfully against Champion(s):
- Elder Slayers

For clarity, the Elder Slayers are Al-Hezmin, Baran, Drox, Veritania and Zana (and Sirus addressed above). This is the point I'd largely disagree with, I do not think they are more powerful than any god in their prime, and would consider them a sort of Demi-God. Someone, who prior to the Beast's Barrier, would have trancended into godhood, but are now prevented from doing so (or are at least, nearing that barrier). While they are no doubt powerful, a lot of that comes from their growing mastery of the atlas allowing them to warp that astral realm to their needs, most of their followers seem to be from this.

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T6 Gods:
- Sin
- Innocence
- Kitava
- The Boys from the Pantheon


As noted above, I think these are generally more powerful than the Elder Slayers, I also think these gods are seen in the campaign at their absolute weakest they had ever been in their histories in all likelyhood. Be it from their sleep or being badly starved of worship for so long, half of the lesser gods appeared to have zero active worship, and where all but lost to the annals of time.

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T7:
- Just about everything else we meet in the Acts
No clue where the side content bosses fit in (Breach, Abyss, Delve, Syndicate, Heist etc)


To highlight, there are VERY standouts, T8 I'd have the 'whatever' like Kraitlyn, Oak, Casticus, and the like. Some of the act bosses (Mervail, Oversoul, Dominius, etc) deserve their own classifyer which I'll use T7 for below.

Mirroring your system;
Scourge / Beyond: The trio demon lords are T2 or T3 as singular creatures, that they seem to either command massive armies of demons, or exist through their many forms, they are well in T2 in my eyes.

Breach: I'm still not 100% as to the nature of the breach lords, but their power looks easily in the T3 realm, with maybe Chayula getting up to T2.

Abyss: The Lich lords while threatening from their world ending abilities to create armies (that seem able to deal with the sun somewhat now?), but as singular entities, I'd put them in the high T7, they did nearly destroy the world way back when.

Expidition: Speifically the bosses, Medved, Vorana, Uhtred and Olrath, I'd put in roughly T7, with Uhtred being maybe pushing T6.

Grove: The bosses would be roughl T7, with Oshibi's final fight being pushed into T6.

Legion: Easy T7 with nothing really to note, likely fragments of the Maven before she gets back up post slaying of the Beast.

Alter: No real boss of note, T8.

Metamorph: No real singular boss, but the black ichor is rightly it's own singular entity (Tane is using you to torture his old master by killing it over and over). Pretty easy T7 creature, and appears to be immortal.

Delirum: Korlis and Omniphobia are easy T7's, with Tazmignu being a T6, but seems much more cagey and perhaps less able to fight in the same way Solaris once could.

Blight: The 'Blight' appears to be a T5 or so, but it's hard to say, as that's very abstracted for the event to exist.

Heist: No one here is really striking as a huge player, even the Boss, for all their connections, seems a mortal. No one here seems greater than a T8. I honestly think Heist makes more narrative sense if you run into them in Part 1, rather than Part 2 when the world is ending.

Beastary: These appear to be T6, full gods (the first ones), or at least directly under them, but information on the First Ones is pretty sparse.

Betrayal: I don't think any single member is over a T7, and many are T8. Catarina is of course the exception who's at least a solid T7. The resurrection trick is extremely powerful and offers more than raw combat power that elevates her in other ways.

Incursion: Time magic aside, no one here is particularly of note, easy T8, with an exception to Atizri and maybe the Omnitech pushing a 7.

Delve: Bosses mostly being Aul the Crystal King, Kurgal the Blackblood and Ahuatotli the Blind, all easy 7s (a powerful Vaal priest, might be an 8, and a Lich Lord same as the ones noted in Abyss). Aul is also an easy 7, some early human that kicked of a pre-vaal cataclysm, but not a ton is known of him beyond his fight.

Wow that was more than I thought ><
Last edited by Northern_Ronin#6465 on Apr 5, 2023, 12:11:22 AM
Correct answer is of course the Exile, but that's just the weapon. Without the right person to wield it, to bring out its true potential, an Exile is about as useful as a machine gun is to a monk with monkey-sized hands in a game of Amongst Us (the lesser-known but no less grammatically correct game of WhoDidIt).

PoE is a power fantasy for people who need the fantasy of needing to be supersmart just to kill things in a genre where killing things is the entire point. So the real REAL answer is whoever this game was made for -- you? Maybe you. Probably not. Whoever it is, they have the drive to simply outthink whatever the game tries to throw at them. No mere npc, not a literal god and not some rando new big bad so powerful their farts can rupture the universe, is stronger than that.

For lack of a better candidate, I'd say Kripparian is the strongest entity in Path of Exile, he who brought the masses, who received a Special Thanks in the credits of the game, who broke D3 in half and remains revered for that, and whose only true weakne$$ lies well beyond what PoE can offer. All hail Krippatron.

But at one point, one very specific moment in time, Magnus Thorn was the strongest entity in Path of Exile. His off-screen Flameblasts were fucking *terrifying*.

Then again, so was Hailrake with their off-screen spears. And Chatters with the freezelock and two-hit kills.

And by the time you definitively, unanimously figure out who the strongest npc is in PoE right now, it'll be someone else. So, yeah, have fun with that. :)



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Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Apr 5, 2023, 1:31:42 AM
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Foreverhappychan wrote:
Correct answer is of course the Exile, but that's just the weapon. Without the right person to wield it, to bring out its true potential, an Exile is about as useful as a machine gun is to a monk with monkey-sized hands in a game of Amongst Us (the lesser-known but no less grammatically correct game of WhoDidIt).

PoE is a power fantasy for people who need the fantasy of needing to be supersmart just to kill things in a genre where killing things is the entire point. So the real REAL answer is whoever this game was made for -- you? Maybe you. Probably not. Whoever it is, they have the drive to simply outthink whatever the game tries to throw at them. No mere npc, not a literal god and not some rando new big bad so powerful their farts can rupture the universe, is stronger than that.

For lack of a better candidate, I'd say Kripparian is the strongest entity in Path of Exile, he who brought the masses, who received a Special Thanks in the credits of the game, who broke D3 in half and remains revered for that, and whose only true weakne$$ lies well beyond what PoE can offer. All hail Krippatron.

But at one point, one very specific moment in time, Magnus Thorn was the strongest entity in Path of Exile. His off-screen Flameblasts were fucking *terrifying*.

Then again, so was Hailrake with their off-screen spears. And Chatters with the freezelock and two-hit kills.

And by the time you definitively, unanimously figure out who the strongest npc is in PoE right now, it'll be someone else. So, yeah, have fun with that. :)




Sounds correct to me.
Maybe RNGsus is even more powerful but only in the realms of SSF. Those corrupted by Prospero do not fear RNGsus as much.
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Last edited by Mikrotherion#4706 on Apr 5, 2023, 1:37:09 AM
Is the cortex guy near the same league as Sirius? And for that matter lycia would be pretty high on that list.

I dunno, maybe the true metamorph and blight things are like Sirius tier as well.

And then we haven't fight kalandra.

Also their is some essence lore or something.

True answer is mud flats rgoad with arch mods.
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Mikrotherion wrote:

Maybe RNGsus is even more powerful but only in the realms of SSF. Those corrupted by Prospero do not fear RNGsus as much.


Yeah but he died for your skins. This is a fact.

And to my knowledge he has not yet risen again. He languishes in a hell of pure chaos, and his only joy, if you can even call it that, is making others feel a modicum of his constant agony.

RNGesus is the ultimate example of being one's own best/worst customer.
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period.
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roundishcap wrote:
Is the cortex guy near the same league as Sirius? And for that matter lycia would be pretty high on that list.

I dunno, maybe the true metamorph and blight things are like Sirius tier as well.

And then we haven't fight kalandra.

Also their is some essence lore or something.

True answer is mud flats rgoad with arch mods.


High Templar Venarius died to the elder (unleashing it and kicking off Sirus' rise and 'death'). He recoprorated as a spirit and appears to be very powerful yeah, likely in the same league as Shaper / Sirus. He apparently won in a distant iteration and managed to stop the Scourge from burning that version of the world.

Kalandra is a bit more primordial, she may be a 'mundane' god to the scale of Solaris, perhaps higher, it's possible she's something else, an aspect of the astral, but that seems less likely.

As to essences, I assume those locked in time by the Maven, duplications left behind before her rebirth (keep in mind by the way the envoy speaks, he and she have been a round a long time before they appear in the Atlas, but may have been suppressed by the Beast, the Atlas, and Wraeclast MIGHT all be her creation, or at least 'the realm she has been given'). This puts them in league roughly with any mundane, if souped up, monster or person, who's personal drama, power or conflict caught her eye as a possible toy. Though outsiders or messed up harbinger creation are also possible (or other left field results).
Gonna have to say The Elder's master, Decay because his boi beat the Shaper AND he beat the Scourge in Venarius' reality. You can't beat entropy, baby. Also, the exile CANNOT beat the elder without shaper suckerpunching him while he straight-up locks you in place and drains your life like it's not a thing.

The frikin Maven & friends were afraid to come to this world because it was The Elder's play hunting ground. And before you say "but Elderino got his ass kicked by the Watchers of Decay", they were a whole-ass cult not a single character.

I'll leave you with this dream from Synthesis:

"Times will become as they were in the days of old, when the Watchers of Decay were formed. Children will go missing from their beds. Parents will mourn, darkness will descend, and then birthed from that carnage, the Decay will arrive, finding its physical form in our dimension – for that is the Elder's true master! The fungal monstrosity will manifest and spread forth its mighty tendrils. The mould from before time and space began, will seek out the destruction of all things..."
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CW is the strongest, i think ) he can erase everything you love with a single list of patchnotes

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