Relics are not Accountbound and are being Sold, how is that okay?

People are selling their Relics to other people for 1 Divine despite them being "Accountbound"

They just have the Buyer join their Lycea Kill and then the Seller leaves the Sanctum and the buyer can pick up so called "Accountbound" Relics, basically killing the whole Accountbound idea

I wonder if thats intended, and if not hope to see Change bcs that's just bad in my opinion

It's only the dropped relics right? So it's not like you can find a buyer after the fact, people can just pay for a random drop if they don't want to grind out an entire sanctum themselves.

The limitation on lab enchants kind of works the same way, we can't save the enchant and put it on a desired item if we don't have that item at the time. Just like we can't give a person a relic if they aren't there for the fight.

They're either paying someone to run their item or their character through and hoping for an RNG outcome. They can end up with nothing and still have to pay for the run.

That slight limitation gives GGG room to make powerful rewards more common to find. Compared to other desirable rewards that are fully tradable, where the drop rate can be so low you might only find it once in 10 leagues.

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jerot wrote:

It's only the dropped relics right? So it's not like you can find a buyer after the fact, people can just pay for a random drop if they don't want to grind out an entire sanctum themselves.

The limitation on lab enchants kind of works the same way, we can't save the enchant and put it on a desired item if we don't have that item at the time. Just like we can't give a person a relic if they aren't there for the fight.

They're either paying someone to run their item or their character through and hoping for an RNG outcome. They can end up with nothing and still have to pay for the run.

That slight limitation gives GGG room to make powerful rewards more common to find. Compared to other desirable rewards that are fully tradable, where the drop rate can be so low you might only find it once in 10 leagues.

While i mostly agree, but this is gonna end up people selling their Lycae's on TFT or to Streamers, which is kinda disappointing.

Especially bcs you can use Cloak of Tawm'r Isley, to make the Sanctified Relic Drop Identified

So if you want optimal Relics and or want to spam the No Hit Relic, you basically have to be a Streamer, or sit in TFT and buy Lycae kills all day

How its okay:
If you go to the Apple-merchant and buy a Apple, then declare "This is now my Apple and its bound to my very Soul" you basically forfeit the ability to sell the Apple to another person, its a you choice.

On the flipside, if you see a Apple-tree in Nature and think it doesn´t belong to someone and you can just get a Apple for free, you are in the wrong, every tree has his own personal human-caretaker.

Is it against the will of the devs, most likely, but what do you do once the relic-coffer is fully sanctified and you enjoy running it.

Yes, but why on earth do you care? I'm honestly baffled by this every single time. It's not a competitive game and we're 1 month into the league anyway.

You're salty because people have access to content they enjoy/previously didn't have access to, really? The seller is happy with it, the buyer is happy with it, the only one that isn't is...you? LOL.

Items being account bound is stupid and annoying anyways, but being pissed that people found a way to bypass it and can enjoy the reward? That's just unbelievably sad.

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Felix44 wrote:

Yes, but why on earth do you care? I'm honestly baffled by this every single time. It's not a competitive game and we're 1 month into the league anyway.

You're salty because people have access to content they enjoy/previously didn't have access to, really? The seller is happy with it, the buyer is happy with it, the only one that isn't is...you? LOL.

Items being account bound is stupid and annoying anyways, but being pissed that people found a way to bypass it and can enjoy the reward? That's just unbelievably sad.

So you are saying, devaluing, and basically making anything someone does worthless, bcs he is not buying, but Completing the Sanctum on his own to i.e. Get the Original Scripture (No Hit Unique Relic)
Meanwhile people with bigger reach, and a large Community of people who just want any attention from said Person, will offer their Lycia Kills for Free or at low low prices to that Person

So how is that fair?
The guy who doesnt know, or doesnt have the ability to get 60 Lycia kills per Hour, which will be most likely 95% of the playerbase, will just be better off quitting, bcs everything you drop from Sanctum lost immense value bcs of the Players that have the Ability to get 60 Lycia Kills per Hour, due to having Low Wage Workers working for them.

I agree that Accountbound items are strange for PoE, but either make them actually Accountbound or Tradeable on the Trade side... but not via some 3rd Party or by having a Community

I don't see how it's much different than challenge carries.

I wouldn't worry much. There's no way Sanctum is going core and GGG loves their busted chase items too much. If they were account bound so few people would care about them there'd be no point.

Most of the relics I get are junk. Why the heck would anyone want to pay for someone else's random drops? How is that in the least bit unbalancing?

More importantly, why are you valuing your own relics based on what someone else dropped for themselves?

nip it in the bud if you can GGG, better yet make the relics that drop at the end be locked to the account, if another player has accompanied the host through the sanctum sucessfuly then let them get their own drop pool.

done, If you come in at the end you get almost nothing.


(just the fancy stuff at the end) players can divy up the currency on their own.

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ActuallyLimiT wrote:

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Felix44 wrote:

Yes, but why on earth do you care? I'm honestly baffled by this every single time. It's not a competitive game and we're 1 month into the league anyway.

You're salty because people have access to content they enjoy/previously didn't have access to, really? The seller is happy with it, the buyer is happy with it, the only one that isn't is...you? LOL.

Items being account bound is stupid and annoying anyways, but being pissed that people found a way to bypass it and can enjoy the reward? That's just unbelievably sad.

So you are saying, devaluing, and basically making anything someone does worthless, bcs he is not buying, but Completing the Sanctum on his own to i.e. Get the Original Scripture (No Hit Unique Relic)
Meanwhile people with bigger reach, and a large Community of people who just want any attention from said Person, will offer their Lycia Kills for Free or at low low prices to that Person

So how is that fair?
The guy who doesnt know, or doesnt have the ability to get 60 Lycia kills per Hour, which will be most likely 95% of the playerbase, will just be better off quitting, bcs everything you drop from Sanctum lost immense value bcs of the Players that have the Ability to get 60 Lycia Kills per Hour, due to having Low Wage Workers working for them.

I agree that Accountbound items are strange for PoE, but either make them actually Accountbound or Tradeable on the Trade side... but not via some 3rd Party or by having a Community

How on earth did you understand that from what I said? I like sanctum. I like running it (which I do), made my build especially for it if you will. I neither sold nor bought any Lycia kills and likely never will (I have no need to, and I don't particularly enjoy trading, but I am not against this by any means). So I don't really understand how you came to the conclusion that ppl who aren't buying or selling relics are worthless and should quit? Lol.

What I said is, this is an individual game - it's not a MOBA, not a race, not a competition. It's 99% a solo game, so anything anyone else does is mostly irrelevant, unless it directly impacts you. Which in this case, it doesn't.

POE has never been "fair". Is it fair that some people drop a mirror on act 1 ledge? That some people get omni from their first boss kill? Is it fair that I have to work a 10hr job while some people can play all day? No, it's not.

However, you don't see me trying to make it harder or worse for people who are lucky, because their luck doesn't impact me. The thing I have a problem with is your "if I don't, no one should" attitude.

Point 1 - knowledge is and has always been the greatest asset in POE. The guy who "doesn't know" has far more worries than Lycia kills, trust me. Guys who "don't know" don't make it past acts.

And point 2 - stuff you drop in the sanctum never had any "market" value since relics were account bound, so what exactly are you upset about? Are we talking sentimental value? How is a good relic that you dropped "less valuable" because some other guy bought it instead of dropping it?

I personally have a MAJOR issue with this kind of attitude in the POE community, especially the "streamer hate". The fact that other people make more currency or get better drops than you does NOT impact you negatively. Streamers play this game as a job - an actual job - which you do not. So it's perfectly normal for them to have an advantage in the game, from so many points of view. Again, this isn't something you should have a problem with. Do you hate rich people IRL because they're rich?

If anything, more people dropping good stuff is a good thing: more good items on the market is always good, because it makes stuff affordable. If only 3 guys in a league drop a HH, you'll never be able to afford it. Wish more people would understand this, maybe you'd stop wasting time with these hateful posts. What you are asking for benefits NO ONE, it only contributes to ruining the fun for the (probably few) people who actually make a profit or enjoy buying/selling Lycia kills.