I honestly don't care about Ruthless, but...

I just hope that:

A. It won't affect balance of the core game in the way I don't like. Say, GGG sees how people hate move skills being disabled and GGG thinks - "Huh, people like mobility. Maybe we should unnerf mobility skills?". I would take that.

B. It won't somehow pull enough players to make SC League Trade die even faster. It seems like there is significantly more interest than I expected initially. I don't think many people will stick but still.

Also I think it's kind of a meme that you can trade in this mode. You can completely circumvent some of the core challenges of Ruthless with trade.

You dont care. But you care. That is all I see. Logic that is illogical.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Also I think it's kind of a meme that you can trade in this mode. You can completely circumvent some of the core challenges of Ruthless with trade.

I think it's kind of a meme that player can respawn after rip and trade with other players and most people think that SC trade is a normal game.

It feels like a huge mistake on GGGs part driven by Chris' need to placate some of the older talent who wanted this.

But the problem is they have been cutting player agency since 3.13 to meet the same dev demand, so players are weaker in the normal league as well as the new ruthless.

Bad ideas, bad leadership, bad implementation.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Also I think it's kind of a meme that you can trade in this mode. You can completely circumvent some of the core challenges of Ruthless with trade.

This!
At league start, there will probably be a lot of mule characters created only to get all the starting gems.
There'll also be people farming for support gems.
Not sure how the economy will develop, but I don't think it'll take long and it's quite close to normal SC economy.

Start with a build that doesn't need a lot of investment (looking at you, cold dot occultist and a few others), farm some currency and twink gear, start a new character, buy skill/ support gems, play as if it were non-ruthless.

I also think that upon death (HC and SC ruthless) the stash should be emptied.

I actually do hope it affects the balance of the main game in the form of making the main game easier and more looty.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

I actually do hope it affects the balance of the main game in the form of making the main game easier and more looty.

You had that from 2.2 to 3.13. Wasn't it enough?

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

I actually do hope it affects the balance of the main game in the form of making the main game easier and more looty.

You had that from 2.2 to 3.13. Wasn't it enough?

I'll be in Ruthless (:

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Mikrotherion wrote:

At league start, there will probably be a lot of mule characters created only to get all the starting gems.

Well in that case it REALLY IS capturing the vibe of early PoE. I remember telling a dev that I did this to expand my early options and they were genuinely surprised. I thought it was fucking obvious.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

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Mikrotherion wrote:

At league start, there will probably be a lot of mule characters created only to get all the starting gems.

Well in that case it REALLY IS capturing the vibe of early PoE. I remember telling a dev that I did this to expand my early options and they were genuinely surprised. I thought it was fucking obvious.

Sometimes you can't see the forest for all the trees.