Delve event shows how impactful items are

Cant say i enjoyed it, i tried a few times.

How is this an event?? Events are supposed to be fun.

Why would we care about a char in a temp league and why do you neuter them so much. Give us some power so the game is fun again at low lvls.

Plenty of builds can operate without proper items. I just noticed the Ele hit champion and lo and behold - you can handle Delve content above your level with just the starting weapons no problem. Guess you need to think outside of the box (I don't claim that I do, but other people certainly have things figured out).

What about other classes that arent ele hit champ?

Poe has become about doing x to get y. No more sandbox like delve has shown me.

You can use Vortex with pretty much any class. The damage is enough to trivialize early-to-mid-game no problem. Tried traps (poison) and they are still good with little investment, although the playstyle is way too hectic. Haven't delved (lol) much into other builds but I am sure there are more.

I played Fireball / Flameblast chieftain with the starting weapon, reached lvl 50 in ~3h with only 10 deaths. Ignite proliferation is really good with the starting weapon - ignite one enemy, then you have an entire "lava zone" around it's corpse, for 20+ seconds.

it is important only if you do the unwise thing and play 'weapon based' character

if you pick a skill that scales with levels ALL you need is a) starting weapon or b) two +1 wands that happen to be quite easy to roll, even without vendor recipe

it is this simple and has been since GGG made 'level scaling' a thing.

+2 from weapons is pretty much no effort
+1 from amulet is harder but doable with alt spam
21gem - you have 6+ attempts and need to be lucky once

just that and you are at lvl 24 gem. much, much easier than upgrading your no-bench 210pdps weapon to 400pdps (again, no benchcrafts, so you have to f.. drop it like this)

anyone playing character that relies on weapon damage (esp phys weapon damage) is just playing wrong game. there will be 0 such characters in ruthless and everyone shall play the same skill that happen to have the best numbers out of the box

I played Smite Gladiator to 80. Why do we have to play meta builds or care what the power level of the items is? I mean unless you're racing for first, then sure, play only what is best - such is the nature of competition.

Outside of that? Like what can't you play?

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sidtherat wrote:

anyone playing character that relies on weapon damage (esp phys weapon damage) is just playing wrong game.

Tornado shot

And any other build that converts phys to xyz

Woops forgot this was another private account forum player. Not an actual player

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innervation wrote:

I played Smite Gladiator to 80. Why do we have to play meta builds or care what the power level of the items is? I mean unless you're racing for first, then sure, play only what is best - such is the nature of competition.

Outside of that? Like what can't you play?

and 85% of your damage comes from gem levels.

what you cannot play is any build that relies on phys weapon for base damage scaling.

these things do not drop.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Plenty of builds can operate without proper items. I just noticed the Ele hit champion and lo and behold - you can handle Delve content above your level with just the starting weapons no problem. Guess you need to think outside of the box (I don't claim that I do, but other people certainly have things figured out).

This isn't a comeback, you can't respond to delve shows how bad loot is with play these classes that don't require loot.

That isn't a counter argument its just agreement :p

Endless delve is a great way to summarise how bad drops actually are without even the crafting bench, you can even go to specific themed reward zones and you still never feel like you make any progress its kinda amusing overall.

I find the potato gear struggle quite enjoyable though it has its charms.