A debate about how many people beat shaper in this league

I usualy always kill shaper/elder/sirus ... but right now i just play maybe 2 hours a day, get bored, not motivated and reroll to test new thing.

I must be at 80 map completion right now.

This league suck.

This league I am (was) playing non-meta build (flame golems), which does 600k dps to Pinacle boss (non-uber). I managed to kill all non-uber pinacle bosses.
Maven is the hardest of them with low dps character, since she punishes low dps the most.

I feel most people simply doesn't reach end game bosses, since every even average investment build can reach 500k dps.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/x3n6jj/what_do_you_think_beat_shaper_in_kalandra_atm/

made this similar thread here and the steam discussion to just gather more data on this matter in case you wanna read those answers as well :P

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Thror2k5 wrote:

the only bit of information we have is from the steam achievements:



there are *very* few accounts that get to endgame, relative to the amount that have played.

That data is among everyone who has downloaded the game, right?
3% of 150,000 (league peak) is 4500 people. Considering only 50k people are still online each day, that means 10% will have beaten shaper.

However, remember that steam achievements count every library with PoE in it, which is probably over a million by now. Using that rough estimate, 30k unique accounts have beaten shaper since PoE hit steam. With the kind of time and dedication that takes, its safe to assume that many of those players are interested enough in the game to play multiple leagues. While we can also assume many of those will have been in the leavers group in this league, thats still a good number.

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bowen87 wrote:

However, remember that steam achievements count every library with PoE in it, which is probably over a million by now. Using that rough estimate, 30k unique accounts have beaten shaper since PoE hit steam. With the kind of time and dedication that takes, its safe to assume that many of those players are interested enough in the game to play multiple leagues. While we can also assume many of those will have been in the leavers group in this league, thats still a good number.

If you want to look at achievements to try to extrapolate numbers like that it's better to look at more recent additions like the Eater of Worlds achievement which only 1.8% of players have. That simply requires getting into red maps to attain and is fairly easy for any build. Needless to say anyone currently facing Shaper has already cleared Eater of Worlds, but many of the people who have cleared Eater of Worlds are not killing Shaper, especially not every league.

Your player number estimates are off by more than a factor of 10, but that doesn't really matter when looking for a percent. SteamDB estimates around 20 million PoE "owners" and the 150k concurrency numbers on Steam mean probably more than 1 million active players this league, at least at the start.

20%? My understanding is less than 3% of players routinely get to shaper in a league...

EDIT: The only reason I have even killed shaper was I made the push to murder his ass when I thought they were removing him from the game and it turned out he just wasn't the main bad guy anymore. :D

I can't even kill Searing exarch this league i'm so demotivated lol lost 2 characters to bowling ball phase i'm the worst.