Finally a fair league and everyone is tilted

minions finally have to feel the rng gate of gearing and they all crying . the best part of this league was watching them realize how bad it is for other builds.
if you think they were over nerfed stfu and look at melee.
the drops are ass , yup. but the league is ment to last 3 months . it's not normal to full clear everything in one day in a game that want's it to last 3 months. imagine finishing any other rpg in just a few hours , you'd think it was a easy no content game.
I don't see why minions get special treatment, eveything gets rotated out after a while ,it's your turn now.

Completly false and untrue statement. Minions get killed by white beyond monsters in "no damage mod" T16 IN FULL DEFENSIVE GEAR AND PASSIVES.

Its the equivalent of every white T16 monster beeing stun immune for bone shatter build.

you are aware they basically did that with all pinacle bosses . they all have a stun cooldown so you are always doing sub optimal damage no mater how much stun chance you have .
nice how you singled out a build, phys cyclone was good for one league then got nerfed into oblivion. you can just play absolution then. it has all the damage and you don't require a AG .

This makes no sense, unless, the only thing that makes a fair league is when someone else besides you gets nerfed. In other words this is not a fair league for minion builds is it.

But regardless, this does not address the fact that the league reveal promised a bunch of "reworks", that all turned out to be not so great. Unique rework? Harvest Rework? Beyond rework? Archnemesis rework? Besides that you get 4 gems and a this league mechanic that needs buffing right away because everyone skips it. GGG promised us some good stuff, and they didn't deliver, that's why everyone is "tilted" as you call it. I'd just call it reasonably upset.

This new concept goes against a basic ARPG core value..

ARPG = loot

Not this you think you're playing, if you think this is fair league then switch to SSFHC and challenge yourself there.. let people have different options.

But this is a bait thread regardless, still it needs to be explained for the people still defending this or the minority that wanted miserable mode to be a thing for everyone..

I think the problem is the game should have never been one where you clear everything in a day, or hit lvl100 in a few days. I think I even recall many many years ago something about hitting lvl100 was suppose to be difficult and take quite some time.

Everything got out of whack sometime ago because apparently it has been more important over the years to cram the game with more and more stuff instead of balancing it properly, and the balancing it properly part seems not their greatest strength.

As a casual as well impacts to loot and difficulty is pretty brutal. Changes seem to cater to the power creep, which they have created and then everyone else suffers.

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the drops are ass , yup. but the league is ment to last 3 months.

According to steam charts, 10k-20k people leave the league daily. So, the formula to keep players entertained and motivated for 3 months is obviously missing something very important.

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I think the problem is the game should have never been one where you clear everything in a day, or hit lvl100 in a few days. I think I even recall many many years ago something about hitting lvl100 was suppose to be difficult and take quite some time.

This take is naive.

Ben Iamexile Steelmage Alkaiserx the list goes on will always be able to finish this game in a few days at most.

These changes only serve to make it shite for those of us who are normal mortal players if the game is balanced around them.

10000 players might be good enough to do the whole game in a few days. But Most of us take much longer. 250k concurrent players means there are 240k players who are not god tier.

As I write this there are 83 100s in Kalandra trade. And 15000 are 92 or higher.

In SSF Kalandra there are only 1041 92 and up. And 1 100. The vast majority of the next 14000 players are 68 to 91 and so have alot to go 5days into league.

In HC Kalandra trade there are 207 over 92. And the rest are 18 to 91. Many dead.

In SSF HC Kalandra there are 227 over 92. And the rest are 9 to 91. Many dead.

Sure there are some who have 2 characters or more on any of these lists so not unique players. But that is 60000 characters and though in SC trade you have 15000k over 92 it drops off quickly in the other leagues. And I only see Ben has finished everything 4.5days or so into league. And from watching his videos it seems he doesnt like at least Harvest at all. Even claiming he wont be wasting his time on this game long term. (not sure of that was in the moment or not.)

And that means the other 200k (we know this is far higher due to the 250k number was concurrent players) are less than 92 in all leagues. And take weeks or months to get near end game and probably never do ubers.

You dont know anything about minions if you think this is okay.

I get that many people have hate boners for minion builds but this is not okay AT ALL.

This is shit.
And you saying this type of stuff about minion builds just proves you are clueless as the very people who made this patch.

The thing with minions is that they were the top archetype for a really long time.

Looking back, my favorite archetypes got nerfed to death a year ago without ever even being top in the first place.

So, while I know other people's toys being destroyed won't fix my toys, it's difficult to not enjoy it.

In that light, minions need like 30 % dmg and hp nerf, as they are still way too strong in comparison to other nerfed-to-death stuff.