The Divine / Exalt Change is awesome.

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Anngrat wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

Two words.
Cluster Jewels.

Read my post more carefully? I already mentioned clusters rofl. People ARE ALREADY slamming clusters. Literally NOTHING gonna change here...

With the cheaper exalts, you have the possibility of more attempts to get what you want.
How hard is that to understand?

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Anngrat wrote:

The core problem with ex slamming is not the cost of ex, it's more about mod pool been to terrible to attempt to do it.

I doubt it - on my own example, when EX costs 150C, it represents a significant amount of my play time as I don't play all that much, so I'm never slamming it on anything unless it's a guaranteed result via metamods.

But if EX were to be 10C, then I'm slamming an EX on every item with an open affix that I'm using, because the cost is insignificant, and thus it's worth the tiny chance of landing a good mod that would pump up the power of the item.

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xaerobb wrote:

With the cheaper exalts, you have the possibility of more attempts to get what you want.
How hard is that to understand?

Leo slam was something like 40c during the league. Now instead of buying leo slams you would just slam exalt direct into the cluster - you will save something like 30 sec - 1 min that you generally spent for buying leo and vouching, so from this point of view - there will be no influence on crafting clusters.

Tbh, I wouldnt be surprised if in the end people would slam clusters way less. Why? Let me explain.

We used to get at least 10-15 reforges per sacred grove. Sometimes 20+. Reforges phys more common - source of 90% trapper clusters, for example. Now look at harvest teaser. 50-125 life force for single reforge. They showed us 60 life force dropped. Depanding on map quantity, we most likely gonna get 2-5 reforges per map, IF reforge more common gonna cost exact same price. They showed us that more likely gonna cost at least 300 life force, now imagine what if reforges+ gonna cost exact same? The amount of cluster produced per hours gonna decrease drastically, as a result - people would slam even less. yes, people gonna use fossils more ofthen, but that can't compete with the army of dedicated harvest runners crafting stuff via free reforgers...

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Xyel wrote:

But if EX were to be 10C, then I'm slamming an EX on every item with an open affix that I'm using, because the cost is insignificant, and thus it's worth the tiny chance of landing a good mod that would pump up the power of the item.

We had leo slams for ages for this purpose, as i already mentioned

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Anngrat wrote:

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Xyel wrote:

But if EX were to be 10C, then I'm slamming an EX on every item with an open affix that I'm using, because the cost is insignificant, and thus it's worth the tiny chance of landing a good mod that would pump up the power of the item.

We had leo slams for ages for this purpose, as i already mentioned

Which takes way too much time/effort to set up for someone like me to bother if it doesn't have a (semi-)guaranteed success. And no, I'm not using TFT or planning to start.

Also, TFT price of a Leo slam is a poor indicator of future exalt price, because only a small fraction of players uses TFT in the first place, but everyone is dropping exalts and related cards.

When the lifeforce drops were shown in the reveal, was it also said what tier map or quant/juice there was applied?

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Xyel wrote:

Also, TFT price of a Leo slam is a poor indicator of future exalt price, because only a small fraction of players uses TFT in the first place, but everyone is dropping exalts and related cards.

It's poor indicator, because ex most likely gonna cost even less... Majority of betryal runners focus on aisling/vorici/hillock. In 3.19 we gonna be overwhelmed with cheap exalts.

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vlmndd wrote:

When the lifeforce drops were shown in the reveal, was it also said what tier map or quant/juice there was applied?

You need to drop something like 10-15x times more compared to what they show to have exact same amount of reforges as in 3.18. 125 for reforge attack, god knows what amount for reforge more common. Also the most expensive juice from oshabi boss most likely won't be affected by map quantity.

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Anngrat wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

Two words.
Cluster Jewels.

Read my post more carefully? I already mentioned clusters rofl. People ARE ALREADY slamming clusters. Literally NOTHING gonna change here...

If you thing nothing will change you are failing at even simplest math.

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Anngrat wrote:

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xaerobb wrote:

With the cheaper exalts, you have the possibility of more attempts to get what you want.
How hard is that to understand?

Leo slam was something like 40c during the league. Now instead of buying leo slams you would just slam exalt direct into the cluster - you will save something like 30 sec - 1 min that you generally spent for buying leo and vouching, so from this point of view - there will be no influence on crafting clusters.

Yeah because everyone likes to sit 24/7 on TFT to buy Leo slam.

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vlmndd wrote:

When the lifeforce drops were shown in the reveal, was it also said what tier map or quant/juice there was applied?

Yes quantity of the map affects the harvest gove now which means more juiced maps will give you more lifeforce.

best change ever!

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Aynix wrote:

If you thing nothing will change you are failing at even simplest math.

Majority of clusters aint produced by random folks. They are produced by dedicated harvest runners, who prepared lots of bases for each reforge in harvest and just spam the harvest. And those guys know how to leo slam.

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vlmndd wrote:

When the lifeforce drops were shown in the reveal, was it also said what tier map or quant/juice there was applied?.

They showed us maximum 60 life force per crop dropped. 10 reforges attack = 1250. 15 reforges attack - 1875... Literally no way you could juice your maps THAT much to get exact same amount reforges as we used to in 3.18. (And we didnt see reforges more common in trailer...)