The Divine / Exalt Change is awesome.

i found myself using exalts quite a bit, but i haven't EVER used a divine to correct stat rolls on the item in this league.

200c is too much money for that... i'd rather just buy a well rolled unique from the market instead. Usually a high roll on an expensive unique such as AA, Omni, Ashes is worth a few more divine orbs - using them yourself could be much more expensive.

i'm not spending five Black Scythe logbooks worth of money to have a single attempt at correcting rolls. It's too much. If a divine was worth 50-75c each then sure, it would be useful on better raraes and valuable uniques.

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Greebo wrote:

Reading through (most) of this thread, I came to the conclusion that neither Exalts nor Divines should be used for metacrafting.

Previously, Exalts were rarely used for their intended purpose. Now, Divines are rarely used for their intended purpose.

Why can't we have metacraft-specific currency? That (and only that) would free Exalts and Divines to serve their intended purpose.

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About Standard:

Would it really hurt to allow some sort of vendor recipe in standard for people to be able to convert their wealth without losing 80% of its value?

We could have had the option of buying divines for exalts 1-to-1 __in STANDARD__ only. Maybe temporarily, maybe permanently, I don't know, whichever.

I mean, I don't really care, I was unaffected, I don't play Standard. But if I did, I'd have been quite angry at that change, but most importantly, angry at how carelessly it was introduced in terms of impact on Standard.

Being someone who played Standard because I didn't have the time to constantly level up characters in leagues I was extremely annoyed at the change. I have over 10k exalts built up over years and all that was decimated. I don't even bother logging in anymore as what's the point when they can just take away all your progress instantly. Also I felt depressed looking at my exalts and knowing they were garbage now.

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tUrNiTuP83 wrote:

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Greebo wrote:

Reading through (most) of this thread, I came to the conclusion that neither Exalts nor Divines should be used for metacrafting.

Previously, Exalts were rarely used for their intended purpose. Now, Divines are rarely used for their intended purpose.

Why can't we have metacraft-specific currency? That (and only that) would free Exalts and Divines to serve their intended purpose.

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About Standard:

Would it really hurt to allow some sort of vendor recipe in standard for people to be able to convert their wealth without losing 80% of its value?

We could have had the option of buying divines for exalts 1-to-1 __in STANDARD__ only. Maybe temporarily, maybe permanently, I don't know, whichever.

I mean, I don't really care, I was unaffected, I don't play Standard. But if I did, I'd have been quite angry at that change, but most importantly, angry at how carelessly it was introduced in terms of impact on Standard.

Being someone who played Standard because I didn't have the time to constantly level up characters in leagues I was extremely annoyed at the change. I have over 10k exalts built up over years and all that was decimated. I don't even bother logging in anymore as what's the point when they can just take away all your progress instantly. Also I felt depressed looking at my exalts and knowing they were garbage now.

BOOM!!! I 100% agree with you and I'm in the same place since I only played Standard as well. I have ~8,000 Exalts - and I simply won't log in and play unless they make some kind of change. Count me as another "lost customer". . . .if they even care.

there should be NEW ICONIC orb looking like Exalted orb for crafts, divine should not be main currency, its nice for reroll and looks ugly (even in currency stash is positioned in not good position), exalted orb should stay where it is now and NEW orb should be only for crafting for example with some divination and currency shard drop, not so hard like divine orb. I just fell like game lost its heart with this change, fastest league for me I just quitted after challenges.

Exalted Orb is next to the Mirror of Kalandra in the currency stash tab and is worth almost nothing compared to before.

Divine orb is at the corner and worth "millions".

So, something is very strange.

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PowerFulBR wrote:

Exalted Orb is next to the Mirror of Kalandra in the currency stash tab and is worth almost nothing compared to before.

Divine orb is at the corner and worth "millions".

So, something is very strange.

It's roughly 4,200 exalts to a mirror
80,000 Chaos orbs


The currency inflation has been NUTS. I'm attempting to work towards a Kalandra's Touch but the price inflation is almost faster than I can farm without pushing an unhealthy amount or forcing myself to play the game in a way that I find stressful and unfun. It's almost at 560 divines, Over 110,000 chaos orbs. Over the course of one afternoon it went up 40 divines, even though there were a couple more on the market then earlier.

I've already farmed ~200 div, 40,000 chaos. During almost any other league, where I would aim to farm a headhunter. They were usually between 60 and 80 exalts, with an exalt price typically ranging from 80c to 120c. 4,800 to 9,600 chaos orbs. Right now they are over 30,000c.


It doesn't help we have Archnemesis mod combinations that can dump over 100 raw divines into the economy in a single kill. And crafting so expensive virtually no one can afford to do it. Instead of MF parties adding items and materials to the economy that most of us can buy, they're getting raw currency and the market is so shrunk they can basically buy out and control the supply on any high end item they wish.

This economy sucks. If the goal of all this is to get us to farm for longer for items in the endgame, I'm just going to find a different game that actually respects my time. I get these "aspirational goal" type items are a 0.01%er problem, but the same economic effects are felt by everyone, its extremely frustrating to farm anything this league.

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HighrockIII wrote:

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tUrNiTuP83 wrote:

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Greebo wrote:

Reading through (most) of this thread, I came to the conclusion that neither Exalts nor Divines should be used for metacrafting.

Previously, Exalts were rarely used for their intended purpose. Now, Divines are rarely used for their intended purpose.

Why can't we have metacraft-specific currency? That (and only that) would free Exalts and Divines to serve their intended purpose.

-----

About Standard:

Would it really hurt to allow some sort of vendor recipe in standard for people to be able to convert their wealth without losing 80% of its value?

We could have had the option of buying divines for exalts 1-to-1 __in STANDARD__ only. Maybe temporarily, maybe permanently, I don't know, whichever.

I mean, I don't really care, I was unaffected, I don't play Standard. But if I did, I'd have been quite angry at that change, but most importantly, angry at how carelessly it was introduced in terms of impact on Standard.

Being someone who played Standard because I didn't have the time to constantly level up characters in leagues I was extremely annoyed at the change. I have over 10k exalts built up over years and all that was decimated. I don't even bother logging in anymore as what's the point when they can just take away all your progress instantly. Also I felt depressed looking at my exalts and knowing they were garbage now.

BOOM!!! I 100% agree with you and I'm in the same place since I only played Standard as well. I have ~8,000 Exalts - and I simply won't log in and play unless they make some kind of change. Count me as another "lost customer". . . .if they even care.

This is my first time coming here since the change to see if GGG has said anything. As someone who spent 90% of my time playing in Standard, I'll probably never install the game again.

I think the change with Divine Orbs was awful and it is the primary reason I am not playing and will not be playing in the future.

That's not just because I think actually using Divine Orbs is a game mechanic that is very interesting, but also because it is a cultural issue. For years now, there was excitement over the drop of an Exalted Orb. That has now been taken away. It introduces an instability and the realization that the devs can just diminish the value of everything you've ever done at a whim.

And for what ? Just some experimenting with the economy.

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tUrNiTuP83 wrote:

Being someone who played Standard because I didn't have the time to constantly level up characters in leagues I was extremely annoyed at the change. I have over 10k exalts built up over years and all that was decimated. I don't even bother logging in anymore as what's the point when they can just take away all your progress instantly. Also I felt depressed looking at my exalts and knowing they were garbage now.

Yup, I feel you - even I do play standard from time to time but mostly in league, I have very little exalt in Standard and lots more DIVINE because I am only a fairly new player ---- but such change --- that it is almost feels like (or it indeed is) disrespect from GGG towards players. And these are the reasons truly make players upset and angry about.


Someone used to say : well if you dont care of it you wont be mad about it. That's true, and thats why player's voice should be listen and respect should be equal from both side towards each other. NOT "we decide how we think you should be playing our game" that kind of thought and mentality running this game's plan and progress into future.

But will CW , or GGG , ever listen ?


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