Is Harbinger Dead in 3.19?

Who is going to spec into Harbinger with the changes to Beyond and Exalt shards likely being worth 1c a piece?
Last bumped on Aug 16, 2022, 11:39:38 AM
Yes, for endgame min/max folks harbinger passives have very little upside now. (Unless they add divine shards which seems unlikely)

There is no reason I can think of efficiency wise that you would want harbinger moving forward. Its essentially functionally useless.
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DarthSki44 wrote:
Yes, for endgame min/max folks harbinger passives have very little upside now. (Unless they add divine shards which seems unlikely)

There is no reason I can think of efficiency wise that you would want harbinger moving forward. Its essentially functionally useless.


The little that I was able to watch the ZiggyD interview, Chris did seem to shoot down Divine Orb shards as a possibility.

I'm a religious user of the Harbinger nodes. Not the most efficient, but predictable and I enjoy the mechanic. I think I just lost my faith though because that's a lot of points for very little outcome. I'm more on the doom and gloom side of Exalted Orbs value -- like we're going to see 2013 levels of Exalted Orb value because it's nearly useless now except as a low/mid-tier currency between Chaos Orb and Divine Orb.
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Last edited by Nubatron#4333 on Aug 12, 2022, 10:18:15 AM
If you did it for Exalted shard farming, then yes .... just do Ritual / Expedition / Heist / Blight for Divine farming
Last edited by adreeasa#0340 on Aug 12, 2022, 10:24:27 AM
I'm one ofnthe few people that actually enjoys Harbinger just for the fun of it. I don't vare what they drop, it's just fun to kill them.
Last edited by lupasvasile#5385 on Aug 12, 2022, 10:58:30 AM
For max juicers, probably. Since you will only kill X amount of Beyond mobs before a boss spawns, and then that's it. So if you reach that number in the first couple of packs, you lose out on what you normally would have gotten through the rest of the map.

For normal Alc and go mappers, no. It's better now. Less rippy, and they now drop scourge currency.

EDIT: Oh my bad. I read wrong. I read Beyond for some reason.
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Last edited by Marinxar#3048 on Aug 12, 2022, 11:48:14 AM
It think semi dead, Harbys are still the best source of annuls and in many ways this is only overshadowed because so many people run Harbys and supply them.

If everyone quits Harbys I could see this being a decent way to generate some currency.
Harbinger seems really, really bad now. After the nerfs to # of rare spawns and buffs to rare rewards it all depends on how many rares it still gives you.
i will still spec into since it will still be good early on to get other currency.late end game i will just spec out of it
They are probably the best source for annullment orbs/shards still.

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