[April 12] Initial Development Manifesto Feedback

Thank you for being such great developers & people for trying your best to solve some of these issues & make improvements. It's awesome.

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mothra74 wrote:

I HATE ninja-looting but as you stated in the manifesto you want to create a certain kind of tension/atmosphere in the game and most of your colleagues seem to love it.
I can respect that and I am free to play the game alone or with a group of friends, having our own "gentlemen agreement".

Most of the time genius game design is about giving players what they do NOT know they want.

There is a difference between the tension of not dying in hardcore league and the tension of losing an exalted to a random party member because you have 5 fps in a summon / projectile fest party and can't click on it in an ocean of white items.
And running all maps with people you can count on when english is not your native language... considering the forum has no party / group / guild section, it just requires an absurd amount of time dedicated to the game outside of the game.

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Loki421 wrote:

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Martinezz123 wrote:

Please. Are we going to see any crafting and RNG changes?

So much this. No mention at all about bad economy, bad RNG, or the bad "crafting" system that so many have issues with.

Chris stated that the manifesto would be getting additions, these are the topics they were wanting to discuss right now.

After viewing a number of videos and other current information with Multi-strike and other effect;

Its usefulness is more then apparent, but debatable if its effects are intended in number of aspects of the game including numerous combinations with current attack skills, such as Flicker strike etc.

While multistrike does seem like a crucial ability, it needs to be tuned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP9BiBKei0c

The guy has 3.1k hp or w/e.

Let's see some map runs before we consider anything needing tuning.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

The guy has 3.1k hp or w/e.

Let's see some map runs before we consider anything needing tuning.

And without aurawhoring.

My feedback on the loot system:

I have many level 40+ characters and a lvl 74. I have played 8 hours or more a day for several months just trying to get to know the game and over a decade of online MMO experience. I have yet to speak, I mean scream, about the loot system but I will do so in this post.


I CAN'T STAND IT! MAKES ME WANT TO THROW MY COMPUTER THROUGH YOUR OFFICE DOOR @ YOUR EMPLOYEES EVERY TIME A UNIQUE DROPS! LOL, like the angry person at McDonalds drive-through that everyone wonders after hearing them wtf is wrong with them today.

I never party anymore because I never get loot. Ever. I am one of those who slightly lags and after month and a half of partying I have gotten several orbs worth less than chaos orbs as well as 2 mid quality gems and that is it. That is all I have from easily over 150 hours of partying. My only hope of getting loot in a party is secretly opening a chest while others are fighting and hoping they are too far away to try to loot...it is a sad life in a game so centered around gear.

Suggestion #1
While I like the changes proposed I would like to ask that you also add an automatic loot distribution system as an option. The loot is given at random to whoever is in the party automatically. It is ridiculous having people scrounge for loot while you are supposed to be fighting or a party wiping because someone wants to pick the unique item up first. IT is even more annoying when you stand no chance at all of getting the item and can just stare at it for the few seconds it is on the ground as you dash to pick it up moving to get it 3 seconds after everyone else.

Suggestion #2
I would also like to see a roll system implemented for loot. Those that need it roll dice or something on it. I would like to see this over all other choices to be honest.

Now I know you guys like the FFA system and we will be lucky to even get increased loot timers and I also know you guys like to purport the reason for liking this as it fits the theme of wraeclast being made up of villains and shady characters, but then why do places like Lioneye's exist where people band together and try to help each other? Give us the option to help each other or at least semi-work together when it comes to loot.

Feedback on Melee:

I like the melee buffs mentioned I got 3 that went pure evasion and one armor/evasion that I quit all in there 40's and 50's because they are terrible compared to ranged. Please add more skills to melee's that benefit parties. Melee's currently add nothing I am surprised anyone parties with them.

In no particular order:

1. Evasion is not up to par.

2. Melee's add nothing to parties damage or otherwise.

3. Lack of effective elemental attack variety for melee.

4. Lack of effective melee AoE skills. What about a 2-hand throw skill that arcs into mobs Staff and 2h only? Or different variations of ground slams one making circular pattern around you in various levels from 1-3 that benefit from being chained, the higher level the more powerful. I could go on here but just to give an idea.

5. Lack of effective defense for melee.

I always thought that if you guys add another element wind would be very cool for both mage and melee.

P.S. up the drop of fusings...

Thanks for posting these they were all great and informative.

While I am glad you are listening to players regarding the loot system, I want to also say that so far I really believe in GGG's vision for this game. Listening to players is one thing, but please don't get in the habit of compromising the vision of this game. For example, I'm glad that you didn't even mention fully instanced loot :)

Anyways, thanks for a great game overall.

Please increase drop chance map lvl72+ for soloer
thanks :)