Do you think POE2 would be better off without league based?

just hope poe2 will be 1000000 times slower!
like oldschool closed/open beta poe was <3
best poe was in closed/open beta

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TreeOfDead wrote:

just hope poe2 will be 1000000 times slower!
like oldschool closed/open beta poe was <3
best poe was in closed/open beta

GGG wallet would not agree.

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TreeOfDead wrote:

just hope poe2 will be 1000000 times slower!
like oldschool closed/open beta poe was <3
best poe was in closed/open beta

I totally agree, it's not possible to make an ARPG without RP (roleplay) and for that you should identify with your character, love your triumphs and fear your losses. Currently the game is just a meat grinder, we have already reached the level of cast on death builds because what matters is just moving forward and killing things, the boss fights are scavenger hunts similar to fall guys and there is no longer a story developed, in Indeed its monochromatic zones and bouncing bosses teleporting across the screen take everything away from the game's immersion. I hope the game is slower and visceral with memorable enemies and whose defeat is worth celebrating for the victory and not for the dropped currency. I hope to live my character and that's impossible with leagues that last two weeks

PoE is sucessfull because exactly of that. Market is filled with "slow" ARPGs in which you care about your only character (and those are mostly not online games, because they dont need to be).
PoE has become something that is hard to find in any other game. As soon they would turn it into what you guys want, there would be no reason to play PoE over any other ARPG.

If you are looking for immersion and to identify with ur character, there is plenty of titles out there that will give you it.

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Aynix wrote:

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TreeOfDead wrote:

just hope poe2 will be 1000000 times slower!
like oldschool closed/open beta poe was <3
best poe was in closed/open beta

GGG wallet would not agree.

Hopefully the best option for the wallet isn't the only factor. Diablo Immortal seems to have gone down the fill their wallet path. If that is the future of gaming, I guess I need to find a new hobby.

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Snipemaster wrote:

Now this is something i am on both sides... I can see the pros and cons of both only standard or leagues. One Thing on poe is you never really care about each character you make because you will dump it as soon as the league ends and no one seriously plays standard lets be honest. But on other hand Poe has its league based system established for so long if they change it will make alot of players unhappy. Also with leagues you dont have to go all in so you can just play few weeks get the challanges done and then go play some other which is very appealing for many of us. But with recent changes of slow loot drops and slow enemy kill time it feels like GGG wants you to play all 3 months of a league which i highly doubt many will do.
SO what does most of you think GGG should do for POE2?

The league stuff is what is keeping PoE going as long as it has, though it is (and they know this) getting far too cluttered, i would prefer that they start just making it a one off 3 month and ignore the crying from the players begging for it to be made core.

I would also prefer for them to sort out the mechanics in relation to status effects and immunities, just keep it simple and make the bypass costly but worth it instead of just adding more stuff to try negate.

I'll start out by saying i'm a standard only player, have been for almost 10 years now.

for people like me with a job and family to care for, standard is the only real option.

back on point, why choose 1 path if both exist already? plenty of people who can no-life this game at-will, why not let them feel the satisfaction of getting to the meal before the other guy?

The only things that keeps PoE "relevant", is the constant push of new, "free" content, and the sheer amount of content that every competitor has to compete against.

PoE will - as long as it lives - be a game that is designed to be played forever. And no one plays the same game forever if it does not change/update.

Leagues are hugely important for the game and come at no real downside other than balance patches.

I would actually quite enjoy it if when characters migrate to standard their skill tree is also frozen. I have kept all my standard characters but there isn't really much point to it seeing as all but 2 no longer work due to changes made afterwards. It would be nice to have them still work as they did back when I made them. This would also solve th issue that standard players have that even if they decide to skip leagues and focus on min/maxing a single build they can still get impacted by skill tree changes and balance patches.

I hope they stick to leagues in POE2. Meta changes and new content are a big part of what is keeping this game afloat. I only hope that next time around they are a bit more picky when it comes to feature retention.The game has become bloated and impossible to balance.

Standard already is the non league lol. Always has been. Want to play on old characters? Play standard, nothing wrong with that.