Auction house, good compromise, PETITION

In my opinion you are wrong. The main players are always trading. The current system is tiring and ineffective because instead of playing you have to spam to bots to buy something. You want to add some oil to your amulet? NP. Just spam to one hundred ppl and you get it. Atm to trade effectively you need an advance trader poelurker, etc. You see there is a problem with the game's balance, it's not our problem. Look. GGG has introduced changes that allow you to do a specific content. The problem is that you want loot specific items but you will drops many difrent items that you will not use and those that you would like to use, you have to buy anyway. Why not simplify it? To create unnecessary services? There is always solution.
It wont kil tft.

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rdy4 wrote:

The main players are always trading.

From the trade manifesto:

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Most players who play Path of Exile never trade. Out of the players who do trade, most only complete a few trades in a league. The subset of players who regularly trade strongly overlaps with our core reddit and forum communities.

You're suffering from a misperception as you're only looking at a very small part of the PoE playerbase and drawing your conclusions from that.

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Cyzax wrote:

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rdy4 wrote:

The main players are always trading.

From the trade manifesto:

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Most players who play Path of Exile never trade. Out of the players who do trade, most only complete a few trades in a league. The subset of players who regularly trade strongly overlaps with our core reddit and forum communities.

You're suffering from a misperception as you're only looking at a very small part of the PoE playerbase and drawing your conclusions from that.

Maybe because to sell anything somedays you had to create online stores on the forum and use external search engines? Even now you have to buy a premium stash tab to be able to trade. Most of this players who never trade i'm sure that they dont spend alot of money and time here. But maybe ai'm wrong? Maybe syffering is the what exile should feel :). Whole core of players trade. On tft is almost 300 000 ppl and 87000 online right now. I dont belive in that manifesto.

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rdy4 wrote:

I dont belive in that manifesto.

Said the person who have (at most) 1% of the information about the game and numbers the writers of the manifesto had...

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Cyzax wrote:

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rdy4 wrote:

I dont belive in that manifesto.

Said the person who have (at most) 1% of the information about the game and numbers the writers of the manifesto had...

And now you are attacked me personally cuz i have other opinion? I dont start this thread to argue with ppl in that way. You can spend your life like you want. If you like to spend hours on traiding in spaming to bots thats ok. Many players dont want to. "Most players who play Path of Exile never trade." guees why...

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rdy4 wrote:

And now you are attacked me personally cuz i have other opinion?

Pointing out you base your analysis on very limited information is not a personal attack...

But how did you conclude that I had 1% knowledge of the game ?? x) I showed you numbers from tft. Are you telling me that 300000 ppl never trade xDD. But nvm. It's simple. You dont want to trade? Just dont. Noone force you to use AH. Atm the lack of an auction house bonuses only the richest and forces all of us to use the programs and invest alot of time.
But lets start from beginig. In first post i mentioned ah for consumption items only, items such as: scarabs, maps, essences, fosils, resonators, or currency with buyout option.
Not a big revolution.
And please dont tell me "nooo it will destroy the economy..." Market always adapt.

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rdy4 wrote:

But how did you conclude that I had 1% knowledge of the game ?? x) I showed you numbers from tft.

The players that use TFT is a tiny, TINY subset of players, probably less than 1%.

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rdy4 wrote:

Are you telling me that 300000 ppl never trade xDD.

No... It is probably a lot more... GGG has stated that the majority of players never trade.

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rdy4 wrote:

But nvm. It's simple. You dont want to trade? Just dont. Noone force you to use AH.

That's a very simplistic view, and not at all in touch with reality. An AH would not be an optional element, but would impact game balance. See my first post in this thread. It doesn't matter if it was just for consumables.

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Cyzax wrote:

That's a very simplistic view, and not at all in touch with reality. An AH would not be an optional element, but would impact game balance. See my first post in this thread. It doesn't matter if it was just for consumables.

Because it's very simple. You say ah will make a big difference in the game. AND? What's wrong with that? The implementation of archnemesis does not affect the game atm? Did you watch the forum yesterday when the trading page was down? Do you know what it look's like now? Trading is difficult and not very accessible. Is this what you want to poe look's like? Only for the elite? You think that if they put AH to the game there will be alot more items. And? In same time it will be alont more customers. Dont forget that. Noone of you "AH sceptics" cant know what ah will change to the game. Now trading look's like buing drugs or smt...

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Cyzax wrote:

The players that use TFT is a tiny, TINY subset of players, probably less than 1%.

And why it's look like this? Have you ever try to use trade channel? Did you ever buy something there? This is like one big wall of ad's "currency for $$"...
Most of this people who try poe they didnt discover how to trade propertly. And thats why most of them never trade... There is many solution for your's (AH sceptics) imagin problems. And GGG must stop designe game for streamers and service providers but this is anothere issue.