Did you adjust minion health to the new content? NOPE!

That's rigth, sumoning skeletor is fine. Use bottled flasks,fix your armoer res, put positive chaos,you need EFECTIVE HP at yeast 60 00, also overcupped resitaces,liered defeces.

Obviosy any1 can farmer 43-5 ex a day if you just play tft propfesionaly. Sumonering has zero defense min budgetary, you invest market basedly minimum300 ex.Theirs too many power if you optimize pathofbuilding. Youcan default attack and immune corruption buying jewelers.
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Pizzarugi wrote:
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Chickenwink wrote:
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Nightstone13 wrote:
After latest patch... still losing minions ON LOW LEVEL maps. STILL BROKEN.

Lvl 7 Ivory temple. 5 Zombies dead on a pack of blues ( Me too - Got off screened ).

MINION DEFENSES NEED TO BE RAISED IF YOU EXPECT THEM TO GO TOE TO TOE WITH OVER AMPED CONTENT.


HELLO? ANYONE HOME?

NS


Dude no calm down. Skele mages is the easiest thing to come online as a build and you just wont do anything.

Look at your current gear you have a tabula on like .... what are you doing???!!!!

5-link flesh crafter = 35c

Get the cluster jewel with blessed rebirth = 25c SO YOUR MINIONS DONT DIE IMMEDIATELY, EVERYONE RUNS THIS

Alberons warpath = 3c

Replace your biscos collar with literally any amulet = cheap (life/es and res)
Replace your profane proxy with literally any ring = cheap (life/es and res)
Replace your kalisas grace with literally any gloves = cheap (life/es and res)


Lions eye remorse = 10c

Fix your flasks, 2 health flasks...
Get corrupted blood immune... Hope you have been working on pantheon as well.

Your character is wearing quest gear still, you have an effective health pool of 5k. 5k!!!!! like do you even know how to play???? You could pick up so much budget crap for your setup but instead you complain on the forums???

Get real kid and stop lying on the forums.


Oh, I hadn't looked at their current build. It could definitely use some improvements.

That being said, I strongly recommend looking at Kay's Skeleton Mages build guide for an idea on how you should be gearing.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3179145#p24300842

End result will give you 200k+ EHP against bosses. Still won't do much in making your minions not get shredded by mobs though, Blessed Rebirth is still a required passive.


It could use any improvement lol, hes still using a tabula in fuckin yellow maps.

Anyone here complaining about minion health is a troll. EVERYONE RUNS BLESSED REBIRTH FOR THIS REASON

Its threads like this that are just so far out there, as if you dont pick up these basic items before coming to the forums to complain.
Mash the clean
Last edited by Mashgesture#2912 on May 19, 2022, 12:17:41 PM
this your first time playing lol? My resistances are maxed.

Did you bother to read the thread? Kinda hard to run skellies without Dead Reckoning ( over 1 ex 2 days ago ).

flesh crafter over 4 ex

Let me guess... You payed a visit to one of those" pay to win " shops. Or maybe santa made a delivery huh? I can take one look at your gear and see exactly where it came from and so most other experienced players. Completions don't dont match gear.

For those of us playing honestly it just does not RAIN EX. Currency has to drop or you do recipes and flip currency.

EVER hear of RNG? guess what it effects currency drops too....

Best look at my OP gear a few days into the league post without the completions to match...

Funny...

NS


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Chickenwink wrote:
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Nightstone13 wrote:
After latest patch... still losing minions ON LOW LEVEL maps. STILL BROKEN.

Lvl 7 Ivory temple. 5 Zombies dead on a pack of blues ( Me too - Got off screened ).

MINION DEFENSES NEED TO BE RAISED IF YOU EXPECT THEM TO GO TOE TO TOE WITH OVER AMPED CONTENT.


HELLO? ANYONE HOME?

NS


Dude no calm down. Skele mages is the easiest thing to come online as a build and you just wont do anything.

Look at your current gear you have a tabula on like .... what are you doing???!!!!

Replace Tabula: 5-link flesh crafter = 35c

Get the cluster jewel with blessed rebirth = 25c SO YOUR MINIONS DONT DIE IMMEDIATELY, EVERYONE RUNS THIS

Replace your bones of Ulr: Alberons warpath = 3c

Replace your biscos collar with literally any amulet = cheap (life/es and res)
Replace your profane proxy with literally any ring = cheap (life/es and res)
Replace your kalisas grace with literally any gloves = cheap (life/es and res)


Replace your crap shield: Lions eye remorse = 10c

Fix your flasks, 2 health flasks...
Get corrupted blood immune... Hope you have been working on pantheon as well.

Your character is wearing quest gear still, you have an effective health pool of 5k. 5k!!!!! like do you even know how to play???? You could pick up so much budget crap for your setup but instead you complain on the forums???

Get real kid and stop lying on the forums.
1. I think its a bad idea to split your focus between multiple dps minions. Skeleton mages alone are capable of handling everything. I'd put minion life + elemental army linked to your zombies & spectres and put it in a +2 minion helm. Gem levels are huge for increasing their survivability.

2. Definitely replace tabula with fleshcrafter. Even 4l fleshcrafter would be better because ignoring resistances is so huge. It'll also open up a ring slot coz u don't need profane proxy anymore.

3. You're running flesh offering, should replace that with bone offering & get a life on block shield asap (buy shaper base & reforge life with harvest). I find flesh offering doesn't really help skele mages all that much. This also makes your minions very tanky against hit damage coz they get full effect of block.

4. Get a +1 minion wand which should be cheap. Otherwise craft a better wand with essence of fear.

Again, all this is not to argue that AN mods aren't overtuned. But skele mages is currently one, if not the best build for handling them. So your problem here is fixable with just some gear changes. Hope that helps!
Last edited by stalkingjackal#2441 on May 19, 2022, 12:20:17 PM
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Chickenwink wrote:
Anyone here complaining about minion health is a troll. EVERYONE RUNS BLESSED REBIRTH FOR THIS REASON

Its threads like this that are just so far out there, as if you dont pick up these basic items before coming to the forums to complain.


I learned the importance of Blessed Rebirth the hard way this league. Normally I pick it up later, but the addition of arch mods on mobs has made me reconsider that notion. I entered Mud Geyser (white map) and upon running into the first pack of water elementals spamming ice nova after being empowered by sentinels, killing my minions and I in an instant, I realized that I need that jewel immediately.

As soon as I picked it up and sacrificed some HP passives to use it, my experience improved dramatically. I'm now in mid yellow tier maps and while it takes a while to kill some packs of empowered blues and rares (still running tabula and not fleshcrafter nor have Dead Reckoning jewel), I'm still making progress through the atlas. And all I needed was one jewel.

Don't ever wait to pick it up. Once you have the currency, make it your topmost priority. Your future self will thank you.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.

Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!

And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley
Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on May 19, 2022, 12:29:19 PM
Yeah it sucks that any kind of temporary minion (skele, srs, phantasm) aren't viable without that one cluster jewel.

They should really move all these build enabling notables into the core skill tree. Its been done with other stuff like warcries & totems but somehow blessed rebirth got overlooked.
Im running vanguards... they kill bosses and tough mobs. Quite fast I may add. They also debuff. So a split here early in the game is EXACTLY what you should be doing.

Zombies act as damage soakers.

gear takes currency... Something alot of folks seem to forget. I do have 3 chaos. lol.

FYI... thread is about minion health and the current over amped mobs.

flesh offering gives movement and you need this when your under geared. its a must have. Bone offering is for later in the game.

I know my class.

NS



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stalkingjackal wrote:
1. I think its a bad idea to split your focus between multiple dps minions. Skeleton mages alone are capable of handling everything. I'd put minion life + elemental army linked to your zombies & spectres and put it in a +2 minion helm. Gem levels are huge for increasing their survivability.

2. Definitely replace tabula with fleshcrafter. Even 4l fleshcrafter would be better because ignoring resistances is so huge. It'll also open up a ring slot coz u don't need profane proxy anymore.

3. You're running flesh offering, should replace that with bone offering & get a life on block shield asap (buy shaper base & reforge life with harvest). I find flesh offering doesn't really help skele mages all that much. This also makes your minions very tanky against hit damage coz they get full effect of block.

4. Get a +1 minion wand which should be cheap. Otherwise craft a better wand with essence of fear.

Again, all this is not to argue that AN mods aren't overtuned. But skele mages is currently one, if not the best build for handling them. So your problem here is fixable with just some gear changes. Hope that helps!
Last edited by Nightstone13#5744 on May 19, 2022, 12:37:11 PM
blessed rebirth should not be needed early in the game. The phantasm deaths and the 5% health gained from each death should be plenty to keep any minion alive. Not to mention skellies dieing.

the amount of damage being done here has to be very high or mechanics are broken.

NS

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stalkingjackal wrote:
Yeah it sucks that any kind of temporary minion (skele, srs, phantasm) aren't viable without that one cluster jewel.

They should really move all these build enabling notables into the core skill tree. Its been done with other stuff like warcries & totems but somehow blessed rebirth got overlooked.
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Nightstone13 wrote:
Im running vanguards... they kill bosses and tough mobs. Quite fast I may add. They also debuff. So a split here early in the game is EXACTLY what you should be doing.

Zombies act as damage soakers.

gear takes currency... Something alot of folks seem to forget. I do have 3 chaos. lol.

FYI... thread is about minion health and the current over amped mobs.

I know my class.

NS



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stalkingjackal wrote:
1. I think its a bad idea to split your focus between multiple dps minions. Skeleton mages alone are capable of handling everything. I'd put minion life + elemental army linked to your zombies & spectres and put it in a +2 minion helm. Gem levels are huge for increasing their survivability.

2. Definitely replace tabula with fleshcrafter. Even 4l fleshcrafter would be better because ignoring resistances is so huge. It'll also open up a ring slot coz u don't need profane proxy anymore.

3. You're running flesh offering, should replace that with bone offering & get a life on block shield asap (buy shaper base & reforge life with harvest). I find flesh offering doesn't really help skele mages all that much. This also makes your minions very tanky against hit damage coz they get full effect of block.

4. Get a +1 minion wand which should be cheap. Otherwise craft a better wand with essence of fear.

Again, all this is not to argue that AN mods aren't overtuned. But skele mages is currently one, if not the best build for handling them. So your problem here is fixable with just some gear changes. Hope that helps!


What else do you have in your stash? You may have a lot more things you could break down into chaos if you trade them away.

I recommend looking into Exilence Next. It can check the values of stuff in your stash to determine your total wealth. Not everything will be tradable, but if you have something of value that you won't use, you're better off selling it so you can buy something you will.

Let me give you an example: I have 1ex and 130c+ in my stash (all from 2 lucky ex drops), but according to Exilence Next, my stash is valued at about 10ex. If I were to assume only half of that can actually be traded away for currency, that's still 5ex worth of stuff I haven't sold off yet.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.

Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!

And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley
Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on May 19, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
Im actually okay now that I have dead reckoning and currency will come for the rest.

Im still losing minions on these mobs and I should not be this early in the game. things are broken...

NS

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Pizzarugi wrote:
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Nightstone13 wrote:
Im running vanguards... they kill bosses and tough mobs. Quite fast I may add. They also debuff. So a split here early in the game is EXACTLY what you should be doing.

Zombies act as damage soakers.

gear takes currency... Something alot of folks seem to forget. I do have 3 chaos. lol.

FYI... thread is about minion health and the current over amped mobs.

I know my class.

NS



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stalkingjackal wrote:
1. I think its a bad idea to split your focus between multiple dps minions. Skeleton mages alone are capable of handling everything. I'd put minion life + elemental army linked to your zombies & spectres and put it in a +2 minion helm. Gem levels are huge for increasing their survivability.

2. Definitely replace tabula with fleshcrafter. Even 4l fleshcrafter would be better because ignoring resistances is so huge. It'll also open up a ring slot coz u don't need profane proxy anymore.

3. You're running flesh offering, should replace that with bone offering & get a life on block shield asap (buy shaper base & reforge life with harvest). I find flesh offering doesn't really help skele mages all that much. This also makes your minions very tanky against hit damage coz they get full effect of block.

4. Get a +1 minion wand which should be cheap. Otherwise craft a better wand with essence of fear.

Again, all this is not to argue that AN mods aren't overtuned. But skele mages is currently one, if not the best build for handling them. So your problem here is fixable with just some gear changes. Hope that helps!


What else do you have in your stash? You may have a lot more things you could break down into chaos if you trade them away.

I recommend looking into Exilence Next. It can check the values of stuff in your stash to determine your total wealth. Not everything will be tradable, but if you something of value that you won't use, you're better off selling it so you can buy something you will.

Let me give you an example: I have 1ex and 130c+ in my stash (all from 2 lucky ex drops), but according to Exilence Next, my stash is valued at about 10ex. If I were to assume only half of that can actually be traded away for currency, that's still 5ex worth of stuff I haven't sold off yet.

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