Who else wants see WAR from New World in Poe battle royale ?

My bad I found guild wars 1 had 50+ players in steam charts. Thought I remembered it as gw2

Looked up gw2 and it is TEAM based pvp for CASUAL and pros. which is what this thread is about and this will encourage more CASUAL players to play battle royale.

If current Poe engine cannot handle team pvp performance then hopefully poe2 engine can. There really is no excuse for devs if all these other games can do it but Poe can’t.

Boring and pointless. Just like New World.

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YourFather wrote:

Boring and pointless. Just like New World.

+1

Leave it at New World.

If team war pvp is thriving in guild wars and new world esp for casual players why in world would players not want it in poe? Did we forget Poe was created from inspiration copying great game Diablo
All I see is a lot of crybabies = haters = trolls who just say no “it’s boring”. Really dumb
No wonder CW has PTSD from reading forum threads lol

Perhaps you should try BR first.

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jinspin wrote:

If team war pvp is thriving in guild wars and new world esp for casual players why in world would players not want it in poe? Did we forget Poe was created from inspiration copying great game Diablo
All I see is a lot of crybabies = haters = trolls who just say no “it’s boring”. Really dumb
No wonder CW has PTSD from reading forum threads lol

There are a couple of reasons why PvP in GW2 and I assume New World is popular. The big one is that both games were made with PvP heavily in mind, it was not something tacked on later, it's a very big aspect of both games. Meanwhile in PoE, PvP was never really the focus, and hence the game attracted mostly a PvE crowd (similar case can be seen in Warframe).
Another important reason is that gear doesnt matter much in GW2 PvP or New World PvP. In New World there is some sort of level scaling implemented that makes the gap between high level and lower level players closer, while GW2 has constructed PvP in which everyone has a pool of gear to select from that doesnt require any grinding or aquiring (so gear doesnt matter, its purely skill based), while in WvW, the differnce between ascendant gear (top gear in terms of stats) and exotic gear (much easier to get) is rather small, plus most fights tend to massive, so individual gearing doesnt matter as much.
But in PoE, the pvp is gear based, and the difference between different builds depending on their gear is absolutely massive, I already mentioned how I was ofscreening a whole arena while passing by holding one button. Moreover, insane variety of builds makes it impossible to balance for PvP, so there would be a very small actually viable PvP builds, and everyone would either play those or get stomped. So for PvP in PoE to be in any way attractive, massive amount of work and changes would have to be implemented, and currently the developers can barely handle developing the PvE content.

I don't see any kind of PvP modes being feasible for PoE. I had some hope for the BR mode since I personally kind of enjoyed it back when it was first released as a joke event, but it is evident that the larger community is not interested in something like this.

You're going to get a lot of PVE trolls in any pvp thread for POE. They are usually close minded, noobs at mmorpg's - even if they say they play 1, PVE'rs who demand pve only - usually dress all in black like their streamers / and are shut ins. They play single player games on a pc, who gets a pc for that mainly? nobody. They believe Diablo 2 was a single player game, instead it was leaning toward the Battle.net multiplayer side of things.

They are the most annoying genre of people, to try to get interested in anything mmo related. May as well be talking to console players. They'll talk about the POE audience, but not mention the pc gamer audience as a whole.

Yes, the pvp is meh, until they study Lost Ark's pvp arena's or guildvsguild maps, plus stuns, trips, ailments, moves, & combos. Yes the POE Arena is meh, until they make rewards, plus ladderboards for it. Then a siege vs siege map dota style with pathing, with npc teamates per team.

No Royal asking for 100 people to sign up is too much, should be 20vs20 for starters, to get people interested. Having a side event pvp mode like Royal is lame, anyone who wants to use their main chairs, won't like it. As for pvp for the main game, yes it'll need damage scaling to avoid 1 shots.

Any pvp thread attracts people who will tell you what this game was originally designed for & how impossible it is to make it turn into something else or more. All that is hogwash tho, the game can update in any direction it wants. Than the pve'rs will talk about " audience numbers " for pvp or w/e. Yet that's all a lie too, as half of the pc pvpers aren't playing New World & would be interested in a arpg pvp game, when it fulfills that theme better. So they never mention the audience, that hasn't touched this game yet, but are waiting for more pvp rpg's.

Overall people are trying to limit this game to single player map rushers, who barely have any social town experiences / events, nor pvp tournaments for rewards, nor guild interaction outside hideouts, nor party healer gems for party based difficulty zones. They just want that hermit experience.

I find their grindy pve endgame talks, boring. I'm pretty much grinding bloody aqueduct at 60, repetitively. Way more boring than a 50vs50 would ever be.

P.s. Besides that, New World only has afew skills to use, it's not all that. Most of the videos is with someone just shooting a musket. Honestly looks like a basic version of Guild Wars 2 pvp, with more aiming, but less skills to use. Also New World is a casual game, so even if they play NW, they have time for other games too. As for someone saying GW2 has a active World vs World pvp, from what I hear, most don't do World Vs World, anymore (GW2 is averagely active game, but not a super active pop game these days). WoW Battlegrounds has always had imbalanced faction maps & 1 shots happen often too. Final Fantasy's pvp isn't scaled with the main pve of the game & is lackluster in rewards or edgy'ness. Meaning their isn't much for pvp rpg'ers. I personally don't want to play New World, not a fan of Amazon making game, anymore than if Walmart made an mmo, reviewers are calling New World soulless for a reason (copy-pasted town designs for example). So really Lost Ark, Ashes of Creation - both 1 or 2 years from now (release date), is all there is. If Lost Ark isn't p2w & AOC isn't a aoe spam fest. Till then, hopefully POE adds better pvp updates.

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RuneLuthien wrote:

As for someone saying GW2 has a active World vs World pvp, from what I hear, most don't do World Vs World, anymore (GW2 is averagely active game, but not a super active pop game these days)

People keep bringing this nonsense randomly about WvW in GW2, even though its completely untrue. I play GW2, and WvW is SO "inactive" that I have to wait in queues for WvW maps due to all the people wanting to play it during prime time (some maps are busy even during off hours). GW2 is an active game with tons of people playing, including PvP modes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Ap9QkbYPM

What device can handle this in POE , with all the MTXs and skill effects?