i know its a troll post....but in all seriousness YES this is what using a Mirror should do. Endless copies of items has and remains one of the dumber design flaws of GGG.
Its literally a "legal" dupe hack, and duping has broken SO MANY rpgs before PoE even existed.
Duping has broken games because of how frequent they were, there is a reason mirrors are insanely rare... to the point people have been playing 10 years and have yet to drop one.
Rarity is not an excuse for something to be ridiculously OP, otherwise it sets the precedent that only the wealthy elite get to benefit from powercreep, which they currently do. And when the nerfa happen, which GGG seems awfully afraid of hitting the powercreep itself, the poor will suffer while the rich will shrug it off while pumping out mirror tier items like usual.
Kill the mirrors, slow their advance. It's not a complete solution, but it's a start to slowing the game down that Chris likes to talk about.
lets get real here, mirror tier items are just bringing characters to the very max and are NOT the problem, its the easy to craft double elevated + other goodies items(the 30-120ex stuff in trade) that are the problem(aka woke, lock prefix/suffix, reforge X, lock, veil slam, done items)
- something that does 60% of this weapons damage will still obliterate the game and are nowhere near the cost of a mirror. Lets not forget that crafting a weapon like this takes an obscene number of mirrors worth of currency if you could even get a base.
- mirror tier
- much cheaper and is more than enough to make the game feel stupid easy and is obtainable at a reasonable rate in any league since there is no legacy rolls here... oh and 20 times cheaper
I cant agree with the sentiment to nerf mirrors via tag not after deterministic crafting got gutted.
If we had deterministic crafting with the possibilities of patch 3.13 and probably a different implementation than i would not mind it much.
I see mirrors as a firm part of the eco system. Its the most valuable currency for a reason and for some player it never droped over the course of a decade. Last time i checked it was above 900 exalted in standard.
Id argue for bringing back deterministic crafting and some ways to create those insane synthesis bases. They are the bread and butter and bring excitement in end game min/maxing.
Mirrors are NOT RARE. Mirror DROPS are rare. But the sheer amount of ways to GET a mirror (multiple card stacks, straight up buying with ex, etc) has to be taken into consideration.
By all accounts, at this point in the game there are thousands if not 10s of thousands of mirrors floating around creating a duping problem.
Mirrors are NOT RARE. Mirror DROPS are rare. But the sheer amount of ways to GET a mirror (multiple card stacks, straight up buying with ex, etc) has to be taken into consideration.
By all accounts, at this point in the game there are thousands if not 10s of thousands of mirrors floating around creating a duping problem.
the following is both ONLINE AND OFFLINE(so including people who no longer play)
211 mirrors on standard trade.
12 in standard hardcore
68 in expedition
4 in hardcore expedition
lets say that is 5% of what is available ... that would be a significantly lower number than you just stated is floating around.
Mirrors are rare, their div cards are rare. Getting enough Ex to buy a mirror can be difficult and having the seller actually respond is rare(I have bought a couple mirrors now... I will tell you now maybe 10-20% of sellers for both mirrors and the cards actually respond).
Mirrors are NOT RARE. Mirror DROPS are rare. But the sheer amount of ways to GET a mirror (multiple card stacks, straight up buying with ex, etc) has to be taken into consideration.
By all accounts, at this point in the game there are thousands if not 10s of thousands of mirrors floating around creating a duping problem.
I actually lol'd.
This is at least an 8/10 trollpost, even if you thought you were being serious.
Mirrors are NOT RARE. Mirror DROPS are rare. But the sheer amount of ways to GET a mirror (multiple card stacks, straight up buying with ex, etc) has to be taken into consideration.
By all accounts, at this point in the game there are thousands if not 10s of thousands of mirrors floating around creating a duping problem.
the following is both ONLINE AND OFFLINE(so including people who no longer play)
211 mirrors on standard trade.
12 in standard hardcore
68 in expedition
4 in hardcore expedition
lets say that is 5% of what is available ... that would be a significantly lower number than you just stated is floating around.
Mirrors are rare, their div cards are rare. Getting enough Ex to buy a mirror can be difficult and having the seller actually respond is rare(I have bought a couple mirrors now... I will tell you now maybe 10-20% of sellers for both mirrors and the cards actually respond).
There probably around 100-200 mirrors entering Standard after every league merge. So it is not impossible to think there are indeed 1000's mirrors floating around in Standard.
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'Someone having too much fun with it, it shouldnt be like that'. At one of last podcast Chris said they nerfing 140% fun to 110% fun. Split tag to original base will do the job imo. 1 copy for 1 item is legit and enough for regular player. The way of nerfing infinite duping of items should go full way(beast dupe and fracture fossils already gone) and shouldn't exist in poe2. This will make mirror tier items real chase item obtainable by paying real price for only one existing copy to owner or by crafting yourself(bye harvest).
One of most popular mirror shop on standard did 100 slams this month with disgusting fee(2800+ total slams). And its only one shop. Lots of people holding 10+ mirrors in their pockets. Isnt that enough to think that thousands of mirrors floating around? Its real numbers, not a dream.
And scince currency tab can fit 75k exalts i dont really think mirrors should exist even as long term investment or tool of accumulation or flipping tool. With split tag only person who will need it is a man who crafted good item and will be only one who once will get profit from it. Once. Not infinite loop of slaming.
Must fix this first instead touching auras.
Last edited by in_hop_in#1942 on Sep 20, 2021, 9:42:34 PM
'Someone having too much fun with it, it shouldnt be like that'. At one of last podcast Chris said they nerfing 140% fun to 110% fun. Split tag to original base will do the job imo. 1 copy for 1 item is legit and enough for regular player. The way of nerfing infinite duping of items should go full way(beast dupe and fracture fossils already gone) and shouldn't exist in poe2. This will make mirror tier items real chase item obtainable by paying real price for only one existing copy to owner or by crafting yourself(bye harvest).
One of most popular mirror shop on standard did 100 slams this month with disgusting fee(2800+ total slams). And its only one shop. Lots of people holding 10+ mirrors in their pockets. Isnt that enough to think that thousands of mirrors floating around? Its real numbers, not a dream.
And scince currency tab can fit 75k exalts i dont really think mirrors should exist even as long term investment or tool of accumulation or flipping tool. With split tag only person who will need it is a man who crafted good item and will be only one who once will get profit from it. Once. Not infinite loop of slaming.
Must fix this first instead touching auras.
Imagine unironically thinking standard league was any kind of barometer for game balance, lmao...
The solution to "infinite duping" is balance patches and the 3 month league cycle. If you don't want to play in a league with broken legacy gear, maybe stop playing in Standard?
'Someone having too much fun with it, it shouldnt be like that'. At one of last podcast Chris said they nerfing 140% fun to 110% fun. Split tag to original base will do the job imo. 1 copy for 1 item is legit and enough for regular player. The way of nerfing infinite duping of items should go full way(beast dupe and fracture fossils already gone) and shouldn't exist in poe2. This will make mirror tier items real chase item obtainable by paying real price for only one existing copy to owner or by crafting yourself(bye harvest).
One of most popular mirror shop on standard did 100 slams this month with disgusting fee(2800+ total slams). And its only one shop. Lots of people holding 10+ mirrors in their pockets. Isnt that enough to think that thousands of mirrors floating around? Its real numbers, not a dream.
And scince currency tab can fit 75k exalts i dont really think mirrors should exist even as long term investment or tool of accumulation or flipping tool. With split tag only person who will need it is a man who crafted good item and will be only one who once will get profit from it. Once. Not infinite loop of slaming.
Must fix this first instead touching auras.
Imagine unironically thinking standard league was any kind of barometer for game balance, lmao...
The solution to "infinite duping" is balance patches and the 3 month league cycle. If you don't want to play in a league with broken legacy gear, maybe stop playing in Standard?
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Last edited by in_hop_in#1942 on Sep 20, 2021, 10:15:27 PM
