Migrating characters from HC temp league to SC temp leagues.

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kuciol wrote:

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___Hengist___ wrote:

Not the point. Not worth discussing.


The point here is:


There is no reason not to convert hcssf-league to scssf-league, when you die. Then at least you can continue with the league mechanic.

No becaue you can migrate from SSF to normal league with few clicks. SSF is just a checkbox, nothing else.

Average player progression is much slower in ssf I think, so it should not be ruining any economy.

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___Hengist___ wrote:

Not the point. Not worth discussing.


The point here is:


There is no reason not to convert hcssf-league to scssf-league, when you die. Then at least you can continue with the league mechanic.

If your HC league char just moved to the SC league on death, then there wouldn't really be any point in the HC league. Everybody could just start HC and see how far they got, and there wouldn't be any risk in choosing HC.

The way it is now, with HC league chars dying to Standard, it puts at least a little weight on the decision.

I would argue, however, that if any change should be made, it should be in the other direction. HC chars, when they die, should be gone. That's kinda what HC is, after all.

Clearly they can't because how would Standard players migrate league stuff into the permanent league early otherwise??

Joking aside, it never made sense to me to keep that relic of a time long since passed. It would actually be nice to have HC characters migrate to softcore temporary league because people would be more inclined to try it just to see how far they can make it before they die, and then keep going.

Believe it or not, there are players who pay attention to the SC ladder. Those players shouldn't be "surprised" by characters just popping up fully formed at high level. Screws up their game.

That was the idea anyway.

I'm not saying that you should migrate to the temp SC league when you die. You should still get put in the perma SC league when dying. What i'm asking is why you cant migrate characters from the temp HC to the temp SC league. Like you migrate SSF chracters to the non-SSF version of the temp league. Obviously deaths still migrate you to the perma SC league.

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GeneralGenital182 wrote:

I'm not saying that you should migrate to the temp SC league when you die. You should still get put in the perma SC league when dying. What i'm asking is why you cant migrate characters from the temp HC to the temp SC league. Like you migrate SSF chracters to the non-SSF version of the temp league. Obviously deaths still migrate you to the perma SC league.

Why should there be a difference?

If it makes sense that leaving the HC league by dying should put you in perm SC league, then why would migration be any different?

HC and SC are two different leagues. Choosing HC has a meaning because you can't migrate (or die) into the SC league. Without that consequence of your choice, choosing HC loses that weight. Dying in HC has meaning precisely (and only) because that character gets taken out of the league.

Theres a huge difference between choosing to change the league and being forced to change. Dying should be punished by getting put into the softcore league. But if you choose to want to play SC instead of HC then i feel like that is very different. Theres no change in how people get punished for dying, so i dont see why that would take off weight of the HC league. It just gives you an option of converting to SC, additionally, there is ways to sort of migrate (which i absolutely do not recommend), using other people to basically sell HC gear for SC currency, just leaving the character in the HC league. Additionally it should only be a swap from HC to SC, not the other way around. So by migrating your character already gets taken out of the league, by choice, not as a punishment, without a way to come back. Basically taking a consequence without dying, but to swap to the temp SC league, not the perma one.