Why are their mobile games with better pvp? Or games with less cash shop funds & less playerbase?

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TreeOfDead wrote:

alrdy have royal

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

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Bleu42 wrote:

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kuciol wrote:

Dude PoE is just to big and complex for this trash. Vast majority od players doesnt want this. Ive already told you taht there is so huge disparity between builds that its impossible to balance. In pve we can have builds with 1 bilion dps (there was 1 such build) or build that does 40 milion in single hit. Try to balance that around 6k life we have. Just no.

I daresay one of the few things D3 *almost* got right; PvP arenas. I got to play it at the one blizzcon they showcased them, and only for a couple rounds. But it was really fun. However, in the arena they had planned they were trying for ultra balance; every class had the same (or no) gear, and same skills / no skill points.

Unfortunately I think it would ultimately end up pretty boring in a game that's ALL about the gear and build you have.

I mean hell even in D2, the majority of players didn't PvP nearly at all. The most recent poll by a couple thousand huge D2 fans on Mrllama's channel showed only about 25% pvp (going to add a quick IIRQ here), and those are the more dedicated players based on the fact that elsewhere in the poll, the majority of them played well over 1k hours.

I know in the all the time I spent in D2, I pvp'd very little. Don't care at all about pvp considering the near impossible task of anything close to balance in PoE especially.

So yea, in the end the minority of players will ever do more then dabble in PvP in these games. I get the they absolutely love it, and if perfect balance could be achieved then have at it. But my personal checklist is; Does pvp exist in the game? Okay, then move on.

All I remember from D2's pvp is getting 1 shot by whirlwinding barbarians, or getting shot by amazons off screen, after playing it my entire teenage life. Either that or a paladin found some OP gear & 1 shot as well. The other classes were average / meh.

So if POE is basing it's pvp off d2 or lack of, which they probably are. It's the main culprit to why this games pvp hasn't taken off.

All this talk is going to make me try a p2w game, Lost Ark. PVE'rs who advocate against PVP are just as bad as devs who implement P2W into their game.

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

It's called defense scaling for pvp matches, defense scaling for guild vs guild arenas, & defense scaling for group vs group battlefields.

Or simply whenever someone gets flagged red.

Also your obviously a pve'er troll, on this thread man, the mod already had to delete one of your posts.

Lastly, if builds for pve end-game, are already 40 million - 200 mill difference, than they need to be nerfed anyways. Even for PVE builds shouldn't be having these huge gaps in the millions of dps. That's unbalanced, even for PVE's sake.

So even if your on your high horse, believing you made all the smart build idea's to get your build disproportionately out-gapping most builds, it's still out of balance with those numbers. That's why people are complaining about basing the game around the top 1% of builds, nobody wants that. Not PVE'ers, nor PVP'ers. The only people who want that, are people who want a 1 push button ez-mode, cake-walk, or people who don't want their OP PVE builds nerfed.

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

Wow somebody didn't read the conversation at all. Good job.

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

The reason for Royal, was because if it was connected to the main game, it'd reveal how out of balance the main game is. That's the reason for separating it from the main game.


To say PVE'rs only want alternating meta's & not balance is your opinion only, if polled you'd see the votes on that would be 50%/50% at least. From what I can tell, most want the bottom-down skills to be as good as the top. So actually people hecka want balance. I personally don't care about alternating seasons, like Magic The Gathering standard has.

Personally, even IF you get the best gear. You don't even have a proper town to show it off. What,.. 10 people sitting at the stash & quickly running off or some ditch of a small hideout? All because the further we head into the future, the games projection plan has to copy a 1990's game only, aka Diablo 2?? POE 2 wants better combat, for skill-based. Overall I want to pvp with my main char, not a royal char.

" It can't be pvp, it can't be a mmo " yet this game could probably have another 10 years of updates. If you really believe Leagues are the best thing to be talking about, than sure go ahead for the millionth thread about that.

I'll be over here talking about pvp battlefields, arenas, & bigger social towns. Fair enough.

As for endgame gear competition, to each their own I guess, I know Asmongold personally likes collecting mounts. Tho overall the lesson to be learned is variety. Not just 1 avenue.



" What about the numbers! the big damage? how are they gonna make pvp, because we have big damage, how how... " kek

You do realize I'm from a mmofps game, where a lvl 1 can kill a lvl 220, because it's skill > over stats or gear. Stats & gear, should add more tools your your belt, tho not be planned for a I-win-button. Everyone has blind spots. That's reality.

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LennyLen wrote:

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PrairieTutanka wrote:

Wow somebody didn't read the conversation at all. Good job.

You calling everyone a troll because they say something you don't like is NOT a conversation.