So I've played Diablo 2 Resurrected open beta

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Mirror_Image wrote:

Try to think if the game have ANY feature listed at their store page / in their sales pitch while drinking whatever you prepared calmly.

Well that's the thing, this league brought the game closer to what they're advertising.

- Dark and brutal world, sure is, barring the shiny mtx it's more dark than pretty much anything else in the genre, and it's now fairly brutal again.

- Practically unlimited customization it has, maybe even ridiculously so, whether all of it works or is required at all is another question, but it does have it.

- More bloated itemization than pretty much anything out there - hell yes.

- Lively economy, sure, the usual complaint is that trading might even be too lively and too important. I'll add here that in this patch it actually got more accessible because less stuff trickles down from above, you can sell so-so items pretty easily.

- Customize your personal hideout where other players can get flabbergasted by your anime girl carpet - yes, very yes.

- Ok, we sometimes do have events and races with prizes, but the thing about 'strong competitive PvP' is a bit lulz, and the part about no pay2win is up to debate.

Overall, they do deliver, sometimes maybe not in the way you expect, but they do.

Excuse me, sir, how did you (or me) slipped here from your (or mine) parallel world?

Short essay on false advertisement in Path of Exile sales pitches.

Honestly, I can dismantle it all day long and uncover new lies with each swing - but it will be:

1. Obsolete since the community is doing enough self-harm to itself and to new players already and one lousy research is not enough to put an end to this,
2. Unreasonable because finishing the analysis of this kind is a time-consuming job for which I won't get paid. Not with valuables, nor with positive emotions.

I mean, that's the way sales pitches work, like when apple sells you groundbreaking innovations that have been on other phones for years. For dedicated apple fans they really are groundbreaking innovations.
PoE isn't really a major offender there, sure, they sometimes underdeliver or deliver differently than you hoped them to, but it cuts close enough to the pitch, most of the time.

I can at most offer an upvote for the analysis, oh, wait...

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raics wrote:

PoE isn't really a major offender there, sure, they sometimes underdeliver or deliver differently than you hoped them to, but it cuts close enough to the pitch, most of the time.

...is as criminal underestimation as telling that heavy drug addiction withdrawal 'is making people a little frowny'.
Well, at least this particular game's lies cost only time (always), money (a bit, else see next) and stress level for end user. What an achievement.

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

IT WAS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY EASY.

Diablo 2 feels really easy when you come from Path of Exile.

Path of Exile has only become more difficult over time. You can't play the game for too long because it is mentally taxing to keep focus on all the monsters that can insta-kill you in no time.

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Mirror_Image wrote:

Well, at least this particular game's lies cost only time (always), money (a bit, else see next) and stress level for end user. What an achievement.

Sure, but show me where exactly they're advertising the game as a casual, relaxing, family friendly experience. Imagine if Hunt: Showdown or Escape from Tarkov pitched themselves as the next Overwatch.

I probably did wrote something which might imply PoE pitch being about being casual, relaxing, family-friendly experience in same parallel world where Expedition indeed brought the game to its advertised state.

Well, as I said earlier:

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the community is doing enough self-harm to itself ... already

P. S. Can't tell for Hunt: Showdown. But Escape from Tarkov dergaded into extremely tedious Royale variant instead of 'realistic online first-person action RPG/Simulator with MMO features and a story-driven walkthrough' they advertise.
Five years passed and I'm still due to see anything but first-person action from their pitch.

My point is what can you even expect from a game like this. It's free so there probably will be tedium, it claims it's hardcore so it probably won't be relaxing, it says that the market is lively so you can expect having to do some trading for a smooth experience, and it boasts infinite customization options so it would be pretty amazing if it was easy to get into.

You didn't read mini-essay I linked, did you?
The game claims to be X. But it's Y, which is only remotely near X (and formulating it like that will be quite an underestimation which would bear not enough truth).
Whose fault is it?

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Mirror_Image wrote:

You didn't read mini-essay I linked, did you?
The game claims to be X. But it's Y, which is only remotely near X (and formulating it like that will be quite an underestimation which would bear not enough truth).
Whose fault is it?

I did read the essay, it's disingenuous to say the least.

If I really have to comment on it, take just the thing about masters. Those masters technically aren't in the game anymore but we have new masters now and their content is better than what we had before.