Why were there used to be two leagues at the same time?

I never did understand why they got rid of races. I enjoyed them even though I wasnt very good. I say bring em back with a spectator mode so that those who dont want to race can tune in and watch the racers :D

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SimianJyhad wrote:

I never did understand why they got rid of races.

Probably a "effort/investment vs amount of participation" kinda deal. While we can sit back today and miss the races, I think we have a tendency to exaggerate the amount of participation the races got. The organization and designing of prizes was probably not worth it for them. What's in it for GGG? Do races really draw in players that aren't playing the league? Well, that's me being the devil's advocate, seeing things from their eyes.

I think it's been pretty clear lately that races are getting some traction when it comes to popularity. I don't have any numbers to show, but I think a real focus/effort from GGG could push races to be a pillar in the community - if done correctly. I see why they want content creators to play their part, organizing races, but I think they would be better off with a firm season of themed reces.

Somehow along the way it has become streamer controlled races and events. Doesn't feel as open to me or all inclusive as it once did.

just imagine the whining these days if 10 of the challenges involved HC character 90 and other things on HC

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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gladiatorpie wrote:

Also think of how simple those leagues are. Like onslaught was literally monsters just ran and attacked faster. Thats the league. Thats it. Nothing else new.

There's no real coding or balancing or dev work that needs to be done for that.

KISS

Thier "work" has this as a consequence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8g2P_FnFVM

This game has no business being on consoles anyway. Optimization was never a point of pride for POE.

That particular video is horrendous. I can't imagine how people play the game like that. I've never experienced it like that, but I would be out if I did.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Wait until he finds out about Race Seasons.

I miss racing, with actually company support. I miss filling a day off with short races, or a weekends with a couple day race.

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PyleWarlord wrote:

just imagine the whining these days if 10 of the challenges involved HC character 90 and other things on HC

Just imagine if the HC challenges gave a palette swap for the rewards it'd already make them go ape

I kinda miss the seperate rewards and leagues but I absolutely understand why they ditched it - as scope increases it just isn't sensible to have split priorities really.

And sadly HC feels like a ghost town anyway pretty early on, a combination of technical problems, SSF improvements and power creep progression have really done a number on HC pop.

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SimianJyhad wrote:

I never did understand why they got rid of races. I enjoyed them even though I wasnt very good. I say bring em back with a spectator mode so that those who dont want to race can tune in and watch the racers :D

SSFHC seems to be "the race" now. Very competitive, has cash prizes, watched and what many former racers do. But yeah with twitch and stuff I agree they should give it another go.

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Nubatron wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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gladiatorpie wrote:

Also think of how simple those leagues are. Like onslaught was literally monsters just ran and attacked faster. Thats the league. Thats it. Nothing else new.

There's no real coding or balancing or dev work that needs to be done for that.

KISS

Thier "work" has this as a consequence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8g2P_FnFVM

This game has no business being on consoles anyway. Optimization was never a point of pride for POE.

That particular video is horrendous. I can't imagine how people play the game like that. I've never experienced it like that, but I would be out if I did.

- not that bad but my dated 980 GTX feels it. Then the texture issues since I came back in Heist flashback are just annoying AF. I was thinking of buying a new video card but good luck with miners grabbing them all for twice retail price.:(

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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PyleWarlord wrote:

just imagine the whining these days if 10 of the challenges involved HC character 90 and other things on HC

Just imagine if the HC challenges gave a palette swap for the rewards it'd already make them go ape

I kinda miss the seperate rewards and leagues but I absolutely understand why they ditched it - as scope increases it just isn't sensible to have split priorities really.

And sadly HC feels like a ghost town anyway pretty early on, a combination of technical problems, SSF improvements and power creep progression have really done a number on HC pop.

I think it's just the HC mentality if you're going to go HC might as well find your own stuffs too. Game is less stable now than with desync yet SSFHC is huge with huge streamers doing it. ziz, raiz, steelmage, alky, etc. HC not so much.