Blackguard Arcmage from Barracks..

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OnmyojiOmn wrote:

Use a single-target skill while you're there and actually pay attention to what you're doing. It's not hard.

Totally, use a single target attack while you're surrounded by melee and have the arcmages smacking you with arc. You should definitely use a single target attack, awesome idea.

Just drop the Cyclone its sucks anyway. Ciddiyim

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iceoh wrote:

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OnmyojiOmn wrote:

Use a single-target skill while you're there and actually pay attention to what you're doing. It's not hard.

Totally, use a single target attack while you're surrounded by melee and have the arcmages smacking you with arc. You should definitely use a single target attack, awesome idea.

Don't get surrounded in the first place. Go slow, kite, and kill enemies in smaller groups. Understand that some areas are going to be a little more difficult for any particular build, and adapt.

This Lightning Thorns issue is one of the dumbest things I've seen people complain about so far.

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OnmyojiOmn wrote:

Understand that some areas are going to be a little more difficult for any particular build, and adapt.

This Lightning Thorns issue is one of the dumbest things I've seen people complain about so far.

A little more difficult? Cyclone becomes completely unusable whenever these lightning arc catwomen appear on maps. Just looking out for stray arcs isn't enough; you have to stop and run back as soon as you hear them just to make sure, or else you may die halfway through a single cyclone. It's that bad.

I petition GGG to have lightning thorns reflect on projectile damage and spell damage as well. That would be fun. Can you imagine a scenario where you spray your projectile attacks, which in turn chains a few of these thorned but otherwise garbage mobs ... and you instantly die? You should have used a single target attack. Or reduced your attack/cast speed by pulling out gems or unequipping items.

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Joking aside (since I don't really wish for other classes to suffer), what's with the special attention to melee classes? Are ranged or spellcasting classes excluded for balance reasons?

Yup, thats pretty much the problem.. IF I see those mages comming, I cant use cyclone for the whole map .. and sometimes you dont even see them comming, they join the fight while you fight a mob group and suddenly you see your health going away in 1-2 secs .. Thats just stupid, any other melee skill affected by lightning thorn that much? I dont think so, Cyclone is the only one (4.3 atks per second, and it will rise soon), which is so stupid since its already a underpowerd skill anyways..

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PROguzhan wrote:

which is so stupid since its already a underpowerd skill anyways..

no, not really. you can comfortably break vases and open baskets with it.

just joking but as a main skill it's really not of great use (for me).
i use it with melee damage, item quantity and quality support gems to farm bigger mobs after they're weakened by my fire traps.

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Myrthr wrote:

A little more difficult? Cyclone becomes completely unusable whenever these lightning arc catwomen appear on maps.

So don't use Cyclone in those maps. Why do you think you should be able to use the same skill against every enemy in the game, without ever paying attention to what you're clicking on?

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OnmyojiOmn wrote:

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Myrthr wrote:

A little more difficult? Cyclone becomes completely unusable whenever these lightning arc catwomen appear on maps.

So don't use Cyclone in those maps. Why do you think you should be able to use the same skill against every enemy in the game, without ever paying attention to what you're clicking on?

^This

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OnmyojiOmn wrote:

So don't use Cyclone in those maps. Why do you think you should be able to use the same skill against every enemy in the game, without ever paying attention to what you're clicking on?

so what am I supposed to use?

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Without getting further into a pissing match, if you choose not to agree that this status effect which hits harder than an act boss is an issue, fine. Let's just agree to disagree.

You do not have to accuse me of not knowing how to play or not paying attention. Go ask any cyclone user. It is a problem affecting the skill.

Not too many builds will work if you take away their primary attack. Try doing a map without your main attack skill. It is not impossible, but more of a workaround than anything.