[3.14] Int-Stacking Min-Max Wander Guide | Information for multiple Ascendancies | Raider Showcase
This is (another) Int-Stacking wander archetype thread/guide.
This is less of a Build Guide for new players and more of a showcase for experienced players that are familiar with the archetype and want to min-max.
I tested this archetype out with 5 different ascendancies (Assassin, Raider, Ascendant, Occultist and Elementalist) and I personally like the Raider the most, which is why I posted it here in this sub-forum.
I will talk a bit about the differences between the ascendancies later. Before we start though: They are all valid builds. As with anything they have different strengths and weaknesses as well as gear requirements.
If you are looking for a guide that helps you gear and approach this sort of build from the ground up or as a league starter please take a gander at Google; there are plenty of solid starter and gearing guides out there from popular streamers such as Trivial Matters, MBX and even Zizaran.
You can also ask in this thread; but please take into consideration that I will probably answer with the assumption in mind you know how most things in the game work.
All Videos are deathless and obviously steamroll through the content. I just include them because I know people like to watch them.
~1500 Delve; very hard mods faceted node:
100% delirious bugged packsize map
(beware horrible performance; recorded initially for GGGs bugforum/reports regarding texture streaming issues):
I can post more Videos on request.
The Int-Stacking Wander archetype is a ranged attacker using a Wand with mods that scale its damage for each point of Intelligence invested. Here are some examples of these weapons:
Since Intelligence gives Increases to Energy Shield it serves a double purpose for both offence and defence. On the flip side this makes Itemisation very demanding.
As an ES based Attacker CI is the natural choice for Chaos Immunity as well as enabling the strong 'Damage on Full Life' support.
A high investment build such as this should not be satisfied without a good mix of offensive capabilities, speed, defence and convenience.
The Requirements (...something with this much investment should meet):
Getting stunned causes loss of control of the character.
Whether or not the character does get stunned when hit depends mostly on its total life pool and how hard the enemy hits.
CI reduces the total life pool to 1, which makes it easy for enemies to stun on hit. Even though range and ES offer some defence against this guaranteed Stun Immunity is preferred.
To achieve this one can play an Ascendancy that offers it (Occultist; Ascendant Occultist) or stack stun avoidance via Jewel Implicits or Explicits on Abyss Jewels(new with Ultimatum League).
For more details look into the gear section of this thread.
Elemental Ailment Immunity:
Elemental Ailments are deadly
- Frozen has an similar effect to getting stunned
- Ignite deals damages and disables ES recharge
- Shock is a massive damage multiplier
There are two ways to become immune to Elemental Ailments:
The first is an ascendancy that offers this (Raider, Elementalist, Ascendant-Inquisitor)
The second is by stacking elemental ailment avoidance on gear.
For more details look into the gear section of this thread.
50+Mio Dps Boss/Single Target:
With 50Mio DPS single-target both Sirus A9 and Maven A9 can be instantly phased before mechanics can kick in.
Stats to stack:
- Attack Speed
- Critical Strike Multipliers
- "More" Multipliers
Penetration/Exposure and other means that cause the enemy to take increased damage are exponentially valuable for the build since they will scale the gains from Intelligence in a multiplicative fashion.
That being said - diminishing returns apply to any one of these stacked stats making a good mix more valuable then overcommitting on one stat alone.
~75k effective eHP:
"Maximum Hit Taken" at least 20k:
These are threshold numbers to safely survive boss mechanics such as Mavens "Cascade of Pain", Sirus Meteor Shower/Labyrinth Slam or even hits from bosses and rare mobs at delve depth 1k+.
Intelligence Stacker should have a fairly large ES pool but have little physical mitigation. The large ES pool allows to survive most one-shots; however to truly make the most out of it, it is best combined with other mitigations so consecutive big hits are survivable.
- Evasion/Dodge is a strong defensive mechanic with a large ES pool - where most evasion/dodge characters can feel very "hit or miss" this defence is exponentially stronger when big hits are survivable by default. Block can serve a similar function.
- Recovery rate/sustain is mandatory for this defensive interaction since the ES pool needs to be replenished quickly.
No temporary de-buffs/buffs outside flasks:
It is a bit of a widespread bad habit to tick boxes in PoB to inflate numbers - without those conditions realistically applying in the game.
I make an exception for flasks both because the "Gain a Flaskcharge on dealing a Critical Strike" modifier on belts got buffed and because using them is instant and can be managed over the duration of a boss fight - which is when they typically do matter the most.
Things I consider inflation:
- exposure abilities
- uncontrollable conditionals
- slow triggers
- minion setups for de-buffs
Self-casting abilities does interrupt gameplay which means it will cost dps as well as recovery. It is a hassle to do besides.
Uncontrollable conditional de-buffs are most often not applicable when needed or do not affect the intended target.
Since there exist some key differences between gear for the different Ascendancies I will give a brief general overlook for them:
Ascendancy: Offence | Defence | Speed/Utility
Assassin: 4 | 4 | 4
Raider: 4 | 5 | 5
Elementalist: 5 | 2 | 3
Scion: 3-4 | 3-5 | 3-5
Occultist: 3 | 1 | 2-3
In more detail:
General: Gets Elusive for free and thus frees up a prefix on boots.
Offence: Assassin is a solid choice offering good consistent damage due to its high critical strike chance.
It doesn't get a lot out of items such as Bottled Faith but has good damage and caps its critical hit chance without it. Its clear-skill often does hit the hardest out of all the ascendancies - though all ascendancies clear multiple screens in front of them easily.
Still, the Assassin is the best at that and its natural crit cap enables it to cause various elemental ailments from small sources of damage more readily.
Opportunistic is a bit of a mixed bag - while it is numerically strong it is disabled in encounters you would want it most: The Feared; Uber Elder and afaik even Maven (due to her brain) tend to have 2 or more unique monsters on the screen. In these circumstances it switches over to its defensive benefit.
Defence: Crit Immunity is solid. The Solaris pantheon gives a fairly strong crit defence to all ascendancies though. Elusive and increased effectiveness of it pair up well with a big ES pool.
The Defensive Layer of Opportunistic is strong, though as conditional as its offensive counterpart and might be considered unreliable for either.
Speed/Utility: The increased Elusive effect is a bonus to movement speed.
General: Gets Phasing, Onslaught and Elemental Ailment Immunity for free. This frees up multiple affixes/talent points on the tree.
Offence: Raider is a solid choice in terms of damage. Its main benefit is screen-wide exposure without any conditional ties due to Avatar of the Veil as well as its high attack speed.
Defence: The tankiest version of the build. Innate 15% Dodge/Spelldodge (which stacks with Elusive) and the very strong Avatar of the Chase ascendancy notable give the Raider a 90%+(!) chance to not be hit.
This means that as long as 20k+ES are enough to survive a hit the Raider will typically have recovered before the next attack can land. This is due to the entropic and deterministic nature of evasion.
After you got hit by a mob with a 10% chance to hit you, the same mob will miss its next 9 attacks before it can hit you again.
Speed/Utility: Unsurprisingly the Raider is the fastest ascendancy out of the five and with free phasing + exposure offers the most utility/ease of playing.
General: Does get Elemental Ailment Immunity for free. This frees up multiple affixes/talent points on the tree.
Offence: Hands down the most dps of all ascendancies.
Its buffed Exposure and very strong Confluence put it about 20% before other ascendancies in terms of raw dps.
A couple caveats apply though: A big part of its damage is tied to being able to inflict exposure.
This is only possible to do unconditionally via the Heraldry cluster notable.
The range of exposure offered by this notable is not very large (about the same size as Bottled Faiths effect) so most likely not applicable for clear - but very strong for bosses.
Defence: The defence of the Elementalist is lacking comparatively - a Chaos Golem gives solid ~15% phys mitigation and that is about it.
The Elementalist is also notoriously socket starved which makes it hard(er) to fit other defensive mechanics into it.
Its Elemental Ailment Immunity is also tied to its Golems and it can happen in very rare circumstances that two of the Golems go down at the same time, leaving the Elementalist vulnerable to Ailments for 4 seconds before they get automatically re-summoned.
Speed/Utility: The ascendancy offers no inherent movement speed and its dependency on both Golems and a Herald (for Heraldry) leave it starved of sockets and thus utility.
General: The most flexible ascendancy. Does get Elemental Ailment Immunity for free and can choose from a number of other benefits with her second Ascendancy.
Offence: Overall solid. It depends on which Ascendancy besides Inquisitor is chosen. If opting for something offensive like Assassin/Deadeye/Raider/Elementalist its damage can be very comparable to both Assassin and Raider. It probably wont reach the same highs as the Elementalist unless one goes for Berserker and Berserk-Burst.
Defence: Same as its offence its defence is highly dependant on the chosen second Ascendancy. Gladiator offers a lot defensive benefits such as free blind as well as 15% Block/Spellblock.
Speed/Utiliy: Again it depends on which Ascendancies are chosen. Inquisitor offers good dps and ailment immunity (more on that in the gear section) and any of the others can offer variety of boni to cater to different niches.
General: Does get Stun Immunity for free which does free up jewel implicits and can get elemental reflect immunity instead.
Offence: Probably the weakest choice in terms of offence - a second curse is okay but Malediction and an additional PowerCharge are numerically just not as strong as what the Elementalist/Assassin/Raider can offer.
Defence: Maledictions debuff is the only defensive Layer of note on the Occultist. It is conditional and non-automatic. The Energy Shield regeneration offered is a bit of a meme ever since it got nerfed from 30% to 10%.
Speed/Utility: The second curse can be utilized for temporal chains or enfeeble. It doesn't offer anything in terms of speed.
Gear en détail:
The core of the build.
The currently best wand in the game is Tempest Barb and held by MaiCedere and up for Mirror Service. It recently got recrafted and updated with an Aisling slam for penetration instead of the older version I have. Both are perfectly fine though, obviously.
The second Wand is the ideal 'league' wand that doesn't feature a synth base.
Atziris Mirror offers effective Curse Immunity which is huge QoL. It has more Intelligence and all-res then a rare shield could have and also offers a healthy amount of evasion which translates to a surprising amount of effective health. Unless someone is going for Approach 4 (see above) I do not see a reason to not use this shield.
A rare helmet with T1 Intelligence, elevated %Intelligence, +1 PowerCharge and high Energy Shield is the best choice for this slot.
I prefer this Helmet with an Abyss socket since it is both the numerically strongest option for DPS and ES and can also pack utility like 30% Stun Avoidance if needed.
The helmet can be mirrored at TFT.
A rare armour with Essence/T1 Intelligence, T1 %Intelligence and as much effective ES as possible.
In STD legacy ES Armour reigns supreme on this slot.
In league the best armour to craft for this slot would be a Hunter/Crusader armour with %Phys taken as Chaos as one prefix. Phys taken as Chaos on a CI Build is an incredible defensive option that numerically actually rivals the best legacy ES armours in terms of effective HP. It certainly is better then a hybrid ES prefix.
Legacy Explody Chests are not recommended. The Build does not scale enough physical damage or converts physical damage to make the explosions chain on its own. For pure corpse removal a small bit of cold damage on a Ring or Abyss Jewel is sufficient.
Pseudo link gloves enable both a single target and a clear skill to function at full effectiveness without the need to swap gems.
Ideally with elevated mods; they can be mirrored from TFT.
Take note that currently Increased Projectile Speed is a support that offers very little.
In the Ultimatum Patch Notes GGG pre-emptively curbed a number of strong and hard to acquire stats like Area of Effect - and weirdly enough Projectile Speed. This leads me to believe that Projectile Speed might get buffed/changed in the future.
The recommended enchant is either Fury or Spite.
Fury offers an ignite on bossing targets for Cinderswallow without needing fire damage on gear.
Spite offers a strong slow on Enemies.
Boots offer most movement speed related benefits for the build. Tailwind and Elusive/50% Ailment Avoidance are the two main benefits of this item.
As described above ascendancies that want Ailment Avoidance get up to 50% here which is very strong. Other then that Elusive and Tailwind are useful for all builds.
Pierce is not recommended as a stat since it can be aquired with alternative quality on Kinetic Blast
This slot is one giant monument to attributes and the stacking of it.
The currently best amulet for this slot is available at TFT called Plague Scarab.
Synthesised Rings are BiS due to %increases to Intelligence as well as offering an increase to the maximum number of Power or Frenzy Charges.
They can also be utilized to grant Onslaught or Intimidate if needed.
I enjoy the 'Flask Charges gained on Crit' mod quite a bit ever since it got buffed. Increased ES Recovery is a fantastically strong mod that acts multiplicative with leech, regen, recovery (i.e. from Cinderswallow) and flat ES gain on hit. I can't recommed it enough.
Synth bases exist and are typcially crafted with tripple attribute suffixes which can be really good.
The choice is typically between Flask on Crit + Abyss Jewel vs more Int from a Synth base. Both are good options; I prefer the Stygian but it is up to individual taste.
Other options include Headhunter for very dense content or a Torrent's Reclamation for going fast. Ideally with %Int corruptions.
Large Cluster Jewels:
The notables on cluster jewels fix up accuracy, resists and provide both mana and life(es) leech.
Small Cluster Jewels:
A very solid way to stack attributes and resists.
Those are pretty self-explanatory for the most part.
Split Personality is very efficient for the Raider to offset its sub-par starting location.
The Watchers Eye is best used for defensive mods at a high investment level since it offers mods that cannot be found elsewhere. An ideal third mod would be faster ES recovery rate while affected by discipline.
This provides us a source of Intimidate as well as Double Damage on notables in the area. It also helps with Strength requirements of our gear.
Blind on Hit can be aquired here.
There are 4 main ways to build an Intelligence stacking Wander in principle:
1. stacking large cluster jewels with 12nodes without notables for large attack speed or spell damage gains; often supported by the Crown of Eyes unique helmet
2. pathing down to the Point Blank Keystone
3. running large shield-attack clusters with 8nodes and 3 notables
4. picking up glancing blow and/or block related notables for a rare shield with ES recovery on block
This thread will focus on variation 3. though I will briefly touch on the other approaches:
IMO a very damage driven way to build the character.
Large cluster jewels with attack speed in particular can offer a substantial amount of dps, especially early on in the gearing process. Those gains hit diminishing returns quickly once the overall level of gear rises - and it buys this early advantage on the back of defence.
This strong early advantage is often compounded by utilizing the Crown of Eyes unique helmet which can save talent points when under-levelled and under-geared.
Crown of Eyes ultimately gets outperformed though by strong rare helmets.
Another damage driven way to build the character.
Setting the distance to enemies to less then 10 units maximises the benefit of Point Blank and might seem to be an appealing option.
At a distance of 20 units (edge of screen at 1080p is 85 units) Point Blank has lost half its effectivness and does not appear to be worth pathing for anymore, making this a questionably choice as a ranged character.
The main drawback of the pathing down to Point Blank stems from travelling through dexterity nodes which proofs to be inefficient even with investment.
This is my preferred way to build the character.
I will go into detail about this in the gear section.
It offers the best blend between offence and defence while being good on itemisation.
This is a very interesting variation on the build which I sadly could never really make work to a satisfying degree.
It has a passive defensive recovery mechanic from a rare shield. I would need to delve into PoB quite deep to showcase the difficulties I had to make this work but the main problems I had besides making pathing work were the loss of effective curse immunity by trading in Atziris Mirror a loss of resistances in general.
Those can be partially compensated with a warding-flask - but that costs a unique flask slot (and this variation in particular wants to run Rumi's as well) leading to a cycle of sacrificing effective/efficient offence to make the defence work... which in the end did not sit right with me comparatively to other options.
Different Ascendancies have different requirements as far as Stun and Ailment Immunity are concerned (see above).
1. Stun Immunity/Avoidance is covered by Jewel Implicits and Abyss Jewel Explicits for all Builds that require it from gear.
2. Ailment Immunity/Avoidance is covered as follows for all Builds that require it from gear:
- 50% from elevated shaped Boot explicit (suffix)
- 20% from Belt Labyrinth Enchant while Elusive
- 30% from Elegant Form 2Point Cluster Jewel / Synthesised Implicits on Belts.
- more can be acquired on the talent tree though the opportunity cost can be high and it is not recommended.
- One noteworthy exeption is the Scion-Inquisitor who can benefit from the elevated consecrated ground crusader mod on chests to be permanently immune to Elemental Ailments.
6link Chest - the clear skill:
Awakened Elemental Damage with Attacks
Awakened Greater Multiple Projectiles
Damage on Full Life
The reason for running the clearskill on the 6link-chest is GMP and Fork.
Pseudo 6link Gloves - the single target skill:
Anomalous Power Siphon
Awakened Elemental Damage with Attacks
Damage on Full Life
Shield/Weapon - Frenzy Charge Generation and Movement/Utility:
Anomalous Blood Rage
Lv 4 Enhance
This setup generates Frenzy Charges even when used against bosses.
Anomalous Second Wind
Lv 4 Enhance
3link Helmet - Auras:
4link Boots - Auras:
Lv 4 Enlighten
Flesh and Stone
Running Wrath or HoT becomes inefficient at higher investment levels.
Raider Ideal: https://pastebin.com/hAnZZf2J
Elementalist Ideal: https://pastebin.com/538TgBKp
Assassin Ideal: https://pastebin.com/Adz6V0ka
Ascendant Ideal: https://pastebin.com/4ghpz1yg
Last edited by Cyrix1337 on Jun 1, 2021, 10:38:00 PM
Last bumped on Jul 18, 2021, 11:50:10 AM
Dream items build lul.
The Build is the same as any other Int-stacking wander in general principle.
This is for min-maxing purposes and optimizing each itemslot though, obviously.
Do you have a particular question I could help you with?
Last edited by Cyrix1337 on May 16, 2021, 7:42:28 AM
What Lethal Pride seed is it that actually gets you those notables?
I am hesistant to give out actual seed numbers since that can lead to some really haggard market manipulations, especially in standard.
Typically though to get at least Intimidate and one Double Damage roll on the relevant notables it takes about ~200 divines.
If I promise to keep it to myself would you DM it to me? :D
Nice try! :P
Are these gears and crafts even possible in 3.14? Any instructions?