I'm glad they changed harvest.

I could care less either way, but why even bring this back to begin with. They 1000% knew it would do this but did it anyway. It just pisses people off because they give false sense of the what PoE is and what might be.

And as far as the nerfs are... it still will not be enough. Unless this new league distracts people from Harvest, it will still be sought after just as much as it is now and people are going to continue the hate against it.

"

e1337donkey wrote:

I could care less either way, but why even bring this back to begin with. They 1000% knew it would do this but did it anyway. It just pisses people off because they give false sense of the what PoE is and what might be.

And as far as the nerfs are... it still will not be enough. Unless this new league distracts people from Harvest, it will still be sought after just as much as it is now and people are going to continue the hate against it.

no man they needed to bring it back, it offered things like facetor gems, scarab and godess upgrades, and added more value to divination cards. it also brought fracturing and synth back into the game. also the resistance swap waa a much needed qol improvement.

that shit's all fine. The problem was the aug, remove, and add/remove crafts.

edit: also oshabi. sure she kind of drops garbage but that doesnt mean that one day those uniques wont be good, or that people dont make off meta builds with them.

"

Arkontas wrote:

"

e1337donkey wrote:

I could care less either way, but why even bring this back to begin with. They 1000% knew it would do this but did it anyway. It just pisses people off because they give false sense of the what PoE is and what might be.

And as far as the nerfs are... it still will not be enough. Unless this new league distracts people from Harvest, it will still be sought after just as much as it is now and people are going to continue the hate against it.

no man they needed to bring it back, it offered things like facetor gems, scarab and godess upgrades, and added more value to divination cards. it also brought fracturing and synth back into the game. also the resistance swap waa a much needed qol improvement.

that shit's all fine. The problem was the aug, remove, and add/remove crafts.

edit: also oshabi. sure she kind of drops garbage but that doesnt mean that one day those uniques wont be good, or that people dont make off meta builds with them.

NOPE Harvest IS DOOKIE NAO :_;;;;;;Z

Harvest killed my enjoyment of this game. I think I made it to low yellow maps during Harvest league, saw what was being offered, and lost interest. It's been like this every league since then. Jamella's hero editor is a good comparison. I used that to play a crazy character on open battlenet in the early 2000s and lost interest, even as a little 12 year old child, like an hour later. It's destruction of human imagination to give everything all at once like this. Sounds dramatic but that's how I feel, you may see it in various other forms of media today. This immediate gratification garbage is zombifying people. What glorifies it and keeps it alive are overly enthusiastic streamers and actors, permanently excited, gaping mouths and unblinking eyes, enticing viewers to accept and emulate the same mindmelting behavior. These are the embodiment of SSRIs and amphetamines; literal demons. Not a shit post by the way. Have a nice day.

"

LAMSOL wrote:

Harvest killed my enjoyment of this game. I think I made it to low yellow maps during Harvest league, saw what was being offered, and lost interest. It's been like this every league since then. Jamella's hero editor is a good comparison. I used that to play a crazy character on open battlenet in the early 2000s and lost interest, even as a little 12 year old child, like an hour later. It's destruction of human imagination to give everything all at once like this. Sounds dramatic but that's how I feel, you may see it in various other forms of media today. This immediate gratification garbage is zombifying people. What glorifies it and keeps it alive are overly enthusiastic streamers and actors, permanently excited, gaping mouths and unblinking eyes, enticing viewers to accept and emulate the same mindmelting behavior. These are the embodiment of SSRIs and amphetamines; literal demons. Not a shit post by the way. Have a nice day.

TLDR: Harvest is addictive drug. Exiles get addicted to drug. Take away drug. Exiles become angry and irrational.

Very cool! TIME TO REHABILITATE. COLD TURKEY TREATMENT IMMINENT.

"

They wanted the game to have an RNG system similar to how diablo 2 operates, and that's what brought over all of the people back when diablo 2 was losing steam and diablo 3 flopped.

That might be what brought you over, but what brought me from d3 to poe was the fact that level 100 was an achievable goal, while the paragon system in d3 is an endless grind.

"

Harvest is fundamentally not that. It's basically an item editor, and nothing else behaves that way and stands a chance against it.

First and foremost harvest is a way to upgrade your gear progressively (not instant like with an item editor).
And that option is a very welcome way for me to retain interest. I will never be able to create all the items I want for all the chars I would like to play (not even with harvest). We have an incredible amount of options.
But it opens a path to try new things.

What however puzzles me is why people that don't like harvest just don't use it.
That's an option with heist, with delve, with.. everything. Just do some other content.
Now of course you could say that harvest is more powerful, but on the other hand you say that you don't want powerful things?

Now you might say:
But you don't understand, I NEEED to use harvest, because I need it to stay competitive with..? with what? - that game is played solo by the vast majority of the playerbase and the 3 month league cycle pretty much ensures that the game can't be balanced around harvest items in the current state.

"

It's basically an item editor

Can you show all of your mirror item you created with this " item editor " please ?

We all have access to this item editor and still when i check GG item i only find 5 of them on trade website. Damned, thousands of players with an item editor and we are not good enough to creat more godlike stuff. Crazy.

Even with your " item editor " crafting very good stuff is hard and cost a lot.

agree

"

Deonbekende wrote:

"

It's basically an item editor

Can you show all of your mirror item you created with this " item editor " please ?

We all have access to this item editor and still when i check GG item i only find 5 of them on trade website. Damned, thousands of players with an item editor and we are not good enough to creat more godlike stuff. Crazy.

Even with your " item editor " crafting very good stuff is hard and cost a lot.

Maybe you are not checking hard enough...

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ritual/LJXwVR2fn

And this is only just explode/crit, there are many other mods that you probably didn't factor into. Heck maybe take a look at boots/gloves/helmets as well. Try to take little note of the owners of these items. Keep in mind this is temp leagues.

Maybe then you'll start to understand why the nerf to harvest is needed.

COLD TURKEY TREATMENT IMMINENT! YA'LL ADDICTED TO THIS DRUG CALLED "HARVEST"

"

Deonbekende wrote:

"

It's basically an item editor

Can you show all of your mirror item you created with this " item editor " please ?

We all have access to this item editor and still when i check GG item i only find 5 of them on trade website. Damned, thousands of players with an item editor and we are not good enough to creat more godlike stuff. Crazy.

Even with your " item editor " crafting very good stuff is hard and cost a lot.

100% this