Why does no one link GMP with LMP for Freezing Pulse?

Once LMP is leveled all the way, it has no downside besides mana cost.


GMP only suffers a small (12%?) downside after being leveled.

Is it because of the mana cost?
Maybe because those effects don't stack? Huh, what a strange but obvious answer.

edit: I r idiot
bye bye PoE
Last edited by Selky62#3493 on Apr 1, 2013, 6:23:44 PM
You should probably know that the bonus damage you get from levelling up GMP/LMP is "x% increased projectile damage" (additive) and the penalty you get for using those gems is "30%/50% less projectile damage" (multiplicative).

Those two don't cancel each other out. Not even close.
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bradfordspk wrote:
Maybe because those effects don't stack? Huh, what a strange but obvious answer.


Uh, yes, pretty sure GMP and LMP stack. I've never tried it with freezing pulse, but I don't see why it wouldn't. In answer to the OP's question, the reason people don't stack them (or even use GMP that much) is because freezing pulse is powerful in that the waves overlap one another. USUALLY you can only get a small number of pulses to overlap (like around 3) causing a 5k freezing pulse to hit for 15k. I'm actually not even sure you could get 5 pulses (with just GMP) to overlap. I mean, you'd be hitting more guys, sure, but I seriously doubt this alone would make up for the significant mana cost increase.
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snarge wrote:
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bradfordspk wrote:
Maybe because those effects don't stack? Huh, what a strange but obvious answer.


Uh, yes, pretty sure GMP and LMP stack. I've never tried it with freezing pulse, but I don't see why it wouldn't. In answer to the OP's question, the reason people don't stack them (or even use GMP that much) is because freezing pulse is powerful in that the waves overlap one another. USUALLY you can only get a small number of pulses to overlap (like around 3) causing a 5k freezing pulse to hit for 15k. I'm actually not even sure you could get 5 pulses (with just GMP) to overlap. I mean, you'd be hitting more guys, sure, but I seriously doubt this alone would make up for the significant mana cost increase.


Are you saying you can link LMP-GMP-for 8 projectiles?

edit: holy shit they do stack. Well, news to me folks.
bye bye PoE
Last edited by Selky62#3493 on Apr 1, 2013, 5:45:17 PM
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bradfordspk wrote:
Are you saying you can link LMP-GMP-for 8 projectiles?


The wiki definitely says you can put both LMP and GMP on a skill gem for 6 additional projectiles. LMP gives you 2 additional, and GMP gives you another 4.
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realatomicpanda wrote:
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bradfordspk wrote:
Are you saying you can link LMP-GMP-for 8 projectiles?


The wiki definitely says you can put both LMP and GMP on a skill gem for 6 additional projectiles. LMP gives you 2 additional, and GMP gives you another 4.


ya just tested it you are right. 7 projectiles on my power siphon.
bye bye PoE
Last edited by Selky62#3493 on Apr 1, 2013, 5:45:51 PM
except you would have 80% reduced dmg
IGN: timtwins, timtwinz
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bradfordspk wrote:
Maybe because those effects don't stack? Huh, what a strange but obvious answer.


So you tried to be a smartass without knowing anything about the topic.

Yeah, you definitely fit right in with the PoE community.
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timtwins wrote:
except you would have 80% reduced dmg


65% less damage, actually. Multiplicative, remember.

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