Elemental attack builds are still way too far behind compared to physical builds

lol? not rly

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Slavpocalypse wrote:

Arcane Cloak + MoM together? Isn't that counterproductive? I cant see my zerker having the mana for that, let alone just MoM and the regen aspect as well.

I run Anger + Vitality with enough mana left to attack but not enough for MoM....altho I have seriously considered MoM as my Immortal Call is sometimes not enough.
Not sure about losing out on a ring stat with all those stats either, but you're right it would make MoM viable.

Idk about other bow skills but for Ele Hit and Explosive Arrow they need +gems levels way more than flat added dmg?
Ice Shot and Burning Arrow as where flat added would work much better I thought?

Anyways, really hope GGG sees this and does something to make tri-ele hit competitive with fire convert.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Essence_Worm

Essence worm ring = socketed gems reserve no mana. You will have 100% unreserved mana if you do as I said and yea if you love high ehp pools and skill lots of mana and life nodes while respecting the MoM life/mana ratio, that means having a 2500-3000 mana pool. You must give up vitality though, only 1 aura allowed. But since there are COINCIDENTALLY life nodes with increased life flask recovery next to it, thats like half a vitality aura just for getting dem life nodes.

Arcane Cloak is perfect for MoM and Supreme Ego, even more with all the mana flask nodes that just happen to be next to Supreme Ego. Or check out the dynamo node next to the life wheel that gives you 20% of max mana in 1 sec after pressing a guard skill. Yea you gonna lose mana regularely but you with mana flask + mana leech from berserker its full in 1 second again, so its nothing to care about.

If you ask me, I think all those mana nodes around supreme ego and the life wheel are unnaturally perfectly designed for doing this MoM arcane cloak supreme Ego essence worm thing that I suggested and I dont think that this is coincidence. I think CHRIS WILSON PERSONALLY wants us to play like that.

Oh ya I can see how using EW ring makes you have a bigger mana pool for MoM but my concern is Arcane Cloak that I think uses up around 60-75% of your mana pool each time you proc it?

My zerker only has like 800 mana pool so that's a lot of investment for another defensive layer. I'm going to keep this in mind though.

Alright then invest in more mana skilltree wise and get mana on gear.

Like if my computer and internet would let me play the game right now I would go for something like this: https://pastebin.com/A7Di1XAC (path of building community fork, as warcries I would use Ancestral Cry and Intimidating Cry)

Its not flat ele scaling as a whole but some hybrid of phys scaling and flat ele scaling since glacial hammer threshold jewel and hatred aura want to see some phys base damage but its close enough I think.

Its not easy to do that stuff in ssf since it requires an essence worm to drop. Now combine that with all the reskill and gear requirements of MoM and yea the big MoM reskill is a thing for lvl 92+ since its pretty demanding. I ruined some characters by reskilling to MoM too early, that can go horribly wrong.

But if done correctly and at the right moment a build will have more damage and much more ehp than before. With life scaling 10k hp is a mere dream, with MoM its not even that hard.

Impale was a needless addition to the game but it's not the full story.

Poor Impale Champ got nerfed when last league my Zerker had double the Impale damage just due to x3 higher raw damage output and I think that's where Impale fails.

Impale is not an Ascendancy feature. It's a pure Phys feature. Every pure phys character I make with more than 1.0 atk speed uses it. Why not? It's free damage and very little investment.

Personally I think Elemental melee has had trouble ever since they split Crit Multi and DoT Multi.

Elemental attack based characters still work. I've seen some good Shock and Ignite action but they also make use of Ascendancy features so yea Impale is too simple. You don't really have to build specific for it like Ignite or similar. It's just free damage.

In a way I would like to see Impale treated as more of a melee feature personally. It feels right on a legit melee character like the one I rolled last league. Double Strike Zerker. There's too many Quasi-melee setups now. I remember actually hitting enemies with my weapons long ago and that's where Impale could have a good spot by rewarding that extra up close and personal risk.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cloak_of_Defiance

Lets say we playin a bow build with this chest and have a modest 8k ehp with this 60% life/40% mana MoM setup, means having 4800 life and 3200 mana which results in 312 flat lightning without any mana modifiers and having a lvl 21 arcane cloak.

When arcane cloak is linked with increased duration, then its another 1.4 factor on mana spent, which results in 436 flat lightning and a 3000 damage barrier.

Also, MoM synergizes perfectly with Acrobatics since it doenst get any reductions by it comapared to block or energy shield or armour.

So yea tbh for me this seems to be the key to solve this problem. Get MoM one way or the other, make Arcane Cloak work for having a good time flat ele scaling.

PoB, even the community fork, ignores the mana cost increase in the skill effect so the numbers are off. But I think that should work.

Like 436 flat damage as a side effect of a guard skill is absurd, no flat ele scaler should ignore that tbh. Better than any aura, better than any support gem and also gives you the lifepool in terms of ehp that ranger builds often dont have due to the lack of life nodes on ranger side. I dont know guys, it seems perfect to me. Like Even as a marauder player craved for this chest but since its a shadow base and melee skillgemsetups like the color red it was a nogo. Fact is, 150 flat mana is worth more than 150 flat life in like 99% of mom setups. Not to mention the 300 energy shield. This chest is a secret belly of the beast.