Least this isn't a Gacha game
" Well that's his money. Nothing is wrong here. You don't really need to buy a single mystery box to play the game. You also can wait 3 months to buy it from the shop. And in the end that's just the cosmetic item, so you don't need a single one MTX (besides of stash tabs; those are not in mystery boxes) to play. |
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" 920 USD. The rest of what you said is absolutely correct. Second-class poe gamer
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Thought it said "920 worth in coins".
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" 2020 real life income issues. I have no beef with Scathach in *any* form. ^_^ Unless you mean JP's Castoria. I've yet to really look at her kit, but it's freakin' Artoria. Of course it'll be OP AF. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Oct 27, 2020, 1:44:02 PM
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" I see. That hit me too, I am quite happy that I managed to purchase my divination cards designs right before the virus. I don't have that much free money for now, and there is again a lockdown in my country :/ Likely will even have to pass on Tier 1 supporter pack in December. " I mean JP's Castoria. Well, it's 50% Arts Up, 30% NP Gain, 30% Charge for party + 20% target Charge. It makes everyone with blue cards absurdly OP, and don't requires whale setups. Vlad Berserker is now Tier 1 unit because of that. (Also Party-Wide Special Defense on NP which nullifies damage for 1 hit and cannot be penetrated by any means.) |
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" Sasuga DW. Oh well. By the time it hits the US version my __ And that brings us back on track: PoE will never, ever give you gambler's remorse the way a gacha game does. It'll drag you to the depths of a different, potentially worse hell, and the highs rarely match that of pulling your desired gachawaifu, but it will never leave you thinking, 'fucking finally' after rolling ten after ten. Unless you get too invested in mystery box digging, which is frankly stupid imo given whatever's in there WILL become available in the shop eventually. The only reason to get pulled (haha) into a mystery box gacha-style compulsion is impatience. The main reason you get pulled into a true gacha spending spree is not impatience but genuine insatiable desire to hit the jackpot, knowing there's absolutely no other way to get it. So they're very different mechanisms preying on different human weaknesses. What's interesting is that the really insidious gacha and the 'harmless' PoE version have both likely drawn their share of lever-pulling sprees, which indicates to me that the significant part of gacha isn't the prize, but the sensation of the gamble itself. In which case, even 'harmless' aesthetic-only mystery boxes with incredibly fair pricing (if you don't mind double ups) is predatory. There's no two ways around that. It's still giving vulnerable people (and I consider Exiles typically vulnerable -- as others have noted, PoE is a game for gamblers, ultimately) opportunity to pay real money to indulge their desire to pull levers and push buttons to get 'rarer' items, and to bemoan when they get 'less rare' ones. Different prizes to a regular gacha, but exactly the same gambler's rush. PoE isn't a gacha game but it sure flirts with the idea pretty hard regularly. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Oct 27, 2020, 11:00:16 PM
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" Good luck ^^ I am small dolphin at best, since I am not really a fan of gacha, just kinda like the setting. Mostly going for guaranteed SSR, that's it. Thankfully, this game has no PvP or intense power creep, so you aren't being punished too harsh for not having every unit in the game. They even buff some of the older units sometimes. " You're right, that both gacha and lootboxes are made to get as much money as possible from the customer for as little work as possible. I just tolerate the mystery boxes more because it's basically gambling for early access. Like, I want that Twilight armour set (a celestial set done right, unlike that Darkprism weird design), and I like some of the solar hideout decorations (would look quite good in Celestial Nebula), however, I would just wait 3 more month and get it in the shop. Don't really know if giving the ability for whales to whale without strict limits is good or bad. I mean, spending money which would be spend on entertainment anyway is fine, and it goes to fund the development of the game. And some people do have enough extra money to spend it without problems. It's only becomes a problem when someone starts to spend without responsibility. I wonder what more correct way of giving whales ability to whale and reward them for doing so without preying on gambling addiction would look like. " Huh, I maybe be a rare exception there, since I am not a fan of gambling with game currency either (like non-Harvest crafting or even linking an item - I usually just purchase a 6L prophecy to get my first 6L after Tabula). But it seems right for many players, going with some comments like "now you could just exalt slam 100c cluster jewel and pray to get 300c outcome", when in fact, with cluster jewel mods rarity, this is still pretty much gambling, with odds of bricking the jewel being much higher than getting desired outcome. You could say that just running the content is gambling too, when you spend time to get random rewards from slain monsters. |
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" I appreciate your sane, rational approach to the genre! Odds are of course a big part of it. Take, for example, the original 6L 'recipe': 1,500 fusings to Vorici's crafting table. I believe Chris outright said that the chance of rolling 6L with fusings was lower than in 1,500 fusings, and yet plenty of us still give it a go. Because it's just that much more satisfying to get it in 1,499 randomly than just buy it outright for 1,500. You still feel like you beat the system somehow. Like you won something. The one and only time I rolled a 6L I did it in 5 fusings. Ironically I'd saved up to almost 1k of the damned things and was like fuck it, I'll burn a few because this is BORING. Guess the game heard me. Still quit not long after, but thanks for the random parting gift, PoE. I guess. As for whaling in regards to PoE, it's obviously not the gacha you get addicted to; it's the self-satisfaction knowing you've contributed to a game that remains largely fair in its monetisation, even if it's not entirely honest about it sometimes. For me, it was addiction to collecting titles and exclusive mtxes. Honestly, it was that simple. I had serious FOMO when I decided to skip Breach support packs (decided because I wasn't playing then and funds were tight) and to this day part of me regrets not having that cool purple weapon effect with the trail (back then, only two weapon effects had trails: Breachlord and Oriath; purple and green respectively). I had every pack from CB to then, and quite a few after, and I still felt like I'd lost all because I missed a few itty bitty league support titles and mtxes. So I suppose you could say PoE attracts not so much gamblers but COLLECTORS who have to occasionally gamble to complete the sets. ...Gosh, what does that remind you of magic the gathering what who said that not me stop it. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Oct 28, 2020, 1:25:33 AM
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" Lmao this shit had me crying. Your point still stands tho, on the real. |
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